3.0 or 3.2 ...that's $100-150 for an extra .4ghz that you'll surpass greatly when you decide to overclock. I would go with 3, but it's your decision, good luck with the build :biggrinki
-Derek
-Derek
Computer Nerd's Help needed: Intel Core Duo vs. AMD 64bit Turion
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I was an intel fan for years, but switched to the AMDs with their thunderbird series. Medic is right on the money, there's nothing from Intel that's worth owning at the moment.
I don't know why you want to go with a 64 bit processor unless you either need the extra power or plan on running a 64 bit system. Either way a tower or desk top would be the way to go. 64 bit systems needs a 64 bit operating system, like Windows 64XP, which I don't believe is out yet unless you got one of those developer copies or a temporary trial copy like I have, you have to have all 64 bit drivers for all of your equipment and 64 bit programs. 64 bit processors do run 32 bit systems faster, but what do you need the power for?
The AMD processors run much coooler than the equivalent Intel ones. Intel had to go to a dual core because their original attempt on a 64 bit processor ran too hot and they had to scrap it. AMD definately has better processors these days, especially for the money. Intel just has the name, and of course they're a lot bigger than AMD.
The AMD processors run much coooler than the equivalent Intel ones. Intel had to go to a dual core because their original attempt on a 64 bit processor ran too hot and they had to scrap it. AMD definately has better processors these days, especially for the money. Intel just has the name, and of course they're a lot bigger than AMD.
64 bit processors run regular XP just fine, and do it faster than a comparable speed 32 bit processor. This is my current system configuration. 
GrimJack said:64 bit processors run regular XP just fine, and do it faster than a comparable speed 32 bit processor. This is my current system configuration.
oh my....the choices are killing me. Which should I go for?
It really depends on what you want to do with it. Posting what you use your computer for, and what you would like to use it for in the future is realistically your best bet, then we can tailor a suggestion to your needs.
GrimJack said:
Games would be the major role, with some other crap on the side....here's what I got together so far:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131534
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819116239
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130284
....what do you guy's think so far for a budget gaming PC?
Clueless said:
Don't skimp on the video card. I just picked up a evga 7900gt and it is freakin great. It was only $290 bundled with AOE III.
I have a AMD 64 3500+ processor and a Abit AX8 motherboard and I light people up all day long on Doom3 online. I am "007" on Doom3, when you get your new pc going look me up :icon_wink Same thing goes on Battlefield2.
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The key is, what type of games? There are *LOTS* of games out there that don't stress your processor at all. RTS games use a lot more processor than most FPS games.
I picked up the evga 7600gt recently. I won't buy another part from them.bigaaron said:
It was defective out of the box, the local store refused to RMA it, so I was left with paying for shipping both directions for a card that was DOA.I'll stick to buying from companies that have decent customer support after the sale in the future.
GrimJack said:
I like First Person Shooter games and some real time stratgy(sp?)...I don't need top-of-the-line vid card right now unless most high-tech games require it.
Here's a budget gaming deal for ya:
http://www.netaffilia.com/ad/electronics/frys/i/2006/06/02/17207.html
http://www.netaffilia.com/ad/electronics/frys/i/2006/06/02/17207.html
GrimJack said:I picked up the evga 7600gt recently. I won't buy another part from them.
I'll stick to buying from companies that have decent customer support after the sale in the future.
what vid card do you recommend??
GrimJack said:I picked up the evga 7600gt recently. I won't buy another part from them.
I'll stick to buying from companies that have decent customer support after the sale in the future.
Defective how? Somehow I always am sceptical when someone says a pc component is doa. There are so many things like cabling, drivers, type of memory used, bios, etc, that can make a good part seem defective. I'm sure the video cards are tested before packaging.
I can say that I have given up on ATI completely. I keep giving their cards a shot because the performance/cost seems so good, but their drivers just suck balls, period. I will never buy another ATI product. I have tried 3 generations of their video cards all on different pc's with the same driver and software issues every time. They seem to release their products before the drivers are even fully tested.
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Alright, MaximumPC JUST had an article about this. It was the $1000 gaming rig.
Here is what they put in it:
Motherboard: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
CPU: AMD Athlon 3700+
RAM: 1GB Corsair PC3200
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 7600GT
Power Supply: Antec TruePower 2.0 550W
There were more components, such as case, optical drive, hard drive, etc in the article, but those don't matter much - you can tailor those to your needs or wants. Basically, not counting monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers.. their complete tower cost $1000 in components.
They chose the power supply and motherboard for the future - in case they want to get another 7600GT to run in SLI. Really, the only thing I would change for their setup was the CPU - I would have gotten a Dual-Core AMD instead of the 3700; the X2 3800+ would be a comparable solution. They wanted to put that in, but they would have gone over their budget of $1000.
They ran their benchmarks at mid-range resolution of 1240x1024 [which is a higher resolution that I run my games at].
Doom 3 Frames per second: 35.3
FEAR Frames per second: 52
Quale 4 Frames per second: 44.8
Not bad at all for a budget rig.
Here is what they put in it:
Motherboard: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
CPU: AMD Athlon 3700+
RAM: 1GB Corsair PC3200
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 7600GT
Power Supply: Antec TruePower 2.0 550W
There were more components, such as case, optical drive, hard drive, etc in the article, but those don't matter much - you can tailor those to your needs or wants. Basically, not counting monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers.. their complete tower cost $1000 in components.
They chose the power supply and motherboard for the future - in case they want to get another 7600GT to run in SLI. Really, the only thing I would change for their setup was the CPU - I would have gotten a Dual-Core AMD instead of the 3700; the X2 3800+ would be a comparable solution. They wanted to put that in, but they would have gone over their budget of $1000.
They ran their benchmarks at mid-range resolution of 1240x1024 [which is a higher resolution that I run my games at].
Doom 3 Frames per second: 35.3
FEAR Frames per second: 52
Quale 4 Frames per second: 44.8
Not bad at all for a budget rig.
drunk_medic said:
Doom3 at anything less then 60fps would be totally worthless. I would loose every Doom3 game online with 35fps.
..then buy a better video card and spring for dual-channel RAM. If he was originally looking at getting a Turion or Core Duo, chances are he wasn't planning on spending for 7900GTX's in SLI.bigaaron said:
drunk_medic said:
7900gt is less then $100 more and comes in many different brands if you don't like Evga. For any 3d games the video card is arguably the most critical part in the pc.
drunk_medic said:
I'm actually gonna go with an Pentium D at 3.2Ghz and the Asus mobo...so a nice vid card would be nice to compliment the cpu and mobo. I like to have 2gigs of DDR2 ram at the min...