Canton Racing Oil Pan

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CTsupra

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if we can get more than ten people on this to drop the price to $300 i'll be all over this with cash in hand. yeah, i haven't bought another supra yet, but who said i can't whore parts for the time being? :D

also, this would qualify as one of those "really worth it" group buys that i wouldn't want to miss.

i'm in.

DISCLAIMER: the pan must be a EXACT replica of the Group A pan, or this post is void! ;)
 
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I'm defiately watching this....hopefully if it becomes a reality I'll have the money to snag one when the times comes.
 
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I'm not sure why you want to replicate the Group A pan. Why not just have them make a larger capacity alloy pan that uses the stock pickup, but has a great baffle system built into it? (Canton can make this up easy, they do it for other engine's all the time.)

Some minimum benefits of the pan should be 8 quarts at the "full" mark, meaning you can run 9+ with no windage issues.

A crank scraper built into the pan, or a screen type scraper that pulls oil off the rotating assy. and dumps it back into the pan.

All of that, using the stock pump and pickup would be possible, and should be 300ish stocked by Canton. (Or in a group buy setup at 300 and the MSRP being 350ish.)

Most people are not going to buy a pan unless they are building a motor, and Canton knows this. (And they stock popular pans for that very reason, or have the templates and jigs to make them in a short amount of time.)

I looked at adding kickouts to the stock pan, and I've seen it done a few times, but in the end, decided that the benefits of the accusump far outweigh the benefits of a few quarts of oil in the pan. (The group A pan is awesome, and if I had one I'd use it, but you can spend the 300+ better on a accusump and buying the best filters you can get from Canton.)

Just my .02, but keep in mind I have quite a few bucks tied up in oil mods on my car, and I'm running a stock pan..., but likely would have bought a larger capacity one AND run the accusump if it was only 350.00. (And I would have coated it too... LOL)
 
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Adjuster said:
I'm not sure why you want to replicate the Group A pan. Why not just have them make a larger capacity alloy pan that uses the stock pickup, but has a great baffle system built into it? (Canton can make this up easy, they do it for other engine's all the time.)

Some minimum benefits of the pan should be 8 quarts at the "full" mark, meaning you can run 9+ with no windage issues.

A crank scraper built into the pan, or a screen type scraper that pulls oil off the rotating assy. and dumps it back into the pan.

All of that, using the stock pump and pickup would be possible, and should be 300ish stocked by Canton. (Or in a group buy setup at 300 and the MSRP being 350ish.)

Most people are not going to buy a pan unless they are building a motor, and Canton knows this. (And they stock popular pans for that very reason, or have the templates and jigs to make them in a short amount of time.)

I looked at adding kickouts to the stock pan, and I've seen it done a few times, but in the end, decided that the benefits of the accusump far outweigh the benefits of a few quarts of oil in the pan. (The group A pan is awesome, and if I had one I'd use it, but you can spend the 300+ better on a accusump and buying the best filters you can get from Canton.)

Just my .02, but keep in mind I have quite a few bucks tied up in oil mods on my car, and I'm running a stock pan..., but likely would have bought a larger capacity one AND run the accusump if it was only 350.00. (And I would have coated it too... LOL)
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Or get all 3 ;)
 
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I would be in if this becomes a reality. I agree with adjuster as he has very valid points. The scraper and improved baffling would be great. Additionally I would think that a longer pickup, in addition to a slightly deeper sump would be the best design.
 
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mkIIIman089

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I don't think I'd want it any deeper, it already is level with the bottom of the front crossmember and the last thing I need to worry about it something hitting my oil pan because its the lowest point on the car.
 
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Adjuster said:
I'm not sure why you want to replicate the Group A pan. Why not just have them make a larger capacity alloy pan that uses the stock pickup, but has a great baffle system built into it? (Canton can make this up easy, they do it for other engine's all the time.)

Some minimum benefits of the pan should be 8 quarts at the "full" mark, meaning you can run 9+ with no windage issues.

A crank scraper built into the pan, or a screen type scraper that pulls oil off the rotating assy. and dumps it back into the pan.

All of that, using the stock pump and pickup would be possible, and should be 300ish stocked by Canton. (Or in a group buy setup at 300 and the MSRP being 350ish.)

Most people are not going to buy a pan unless they are building a motor, and Canton knows this. (And they stock popular pans for that very reason, or have the templates and jigs to make them in a short amount of time.)

I looked at adding kickouts to the stock pan, and I've seen it done a few times, but in the end, decided that the benefits of the accusump far outweigh the benefits of a few quarts of oil in the pan. (The group A pan is awesome, and if I had one I'd use it, but you can spend the 300+ better on a accusump and buying the best filters you can get from Canton.)

Just my .02, but keep in mind I have quite a few bucks tied up in oil mods on my car, and I'm running a stock pan..., but likely would have bought a larger capacity one AND run the accusump if it was only 350.00. (And I would have coated it too... LOL)
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I totally agree with you on that idea. The only reason that I suggested using the group a pan was that we would have a template for them to use. I’m good with cad and designing stuff but really don’t have the knowledge on oil pan design. When I called the guy from Canton he said they needed either a pan they can duplicate or a CAD drawing. If anyone has the knowledge on designing a pan let me know and maybe we can talk and work something up that I can draw in CAD. I really love the idea of 8 qts., the extra baffles and a crank scraper. Lets see what we can do. Slow66 I think is going to take the stock pan up to Canton to see what they say. The other option that Dr. J posted is not a bad looking pan either. Just wish there was better pictures, and maybe a crank scraper.
 
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figgie said:
umm if you ned an "idiot" light to tell you that you are low on oil. Then you need to start checking the physical oil on a weekly or daily basis.
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I do check it, every time i start the engine. I was just saying it would be nice to have a "Idiot light" along with the oil pressure gauge when you are driving as a back up.
 
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Hardest part with building a GroupA replica pan would be the curved flange where it bolts to the rails, after that it's pretty straight forward.

I was going to do this but a genuine one came on the market so I snapped it up.
 
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