Cams for a 500 hp MK3 Turbo

[suprarich]

Price wise. They are about $1400 for both. For full billet it is not bad but the chance of someone paying that, very slim. Though perhaps one of the motec owners???

Figgie - Believe it or not, there are a good number of 7m motors around the world running "real" cams. Just that most of them are not on any car forum.

 

[SWD Fredester 3]

Figgie - Believe it or not, there are a good number of 7m motors around the world running "real" cams. Just that most of them are not on any car forum.

Hey Rich, just had to chime in here! My billet cams that I bought from you are in the head and the head is on the block! Slowly this engine is coming together. Some day I'll post up everything going in the build. Thanks again for your great service and info. Didn't mean to jump this thread.
-Fred

 

[gofastgeorge]

There is a set of TRD cams right now in the Mk3 for sale section.

 

[suprarich]

Hey Rich, just had to chime in here! My billet cams that I bought from you are in the head and the head is on the block! Slowly this engine is coming together. Some day I'll post up everything going in the build. Thanks again for your great service and info. Didn't mean to jump this thread.
-Fred

Hey Fred! We must have really turn over some rocks posting about billet cams. Glad to see you back. You should post some pictures of your head work and cams.

gofast - better jump on those cams. Few and far between. Think I will go have a look myself.

 

[gofastgeorge]

I already have a set that are 288x10.5, that I just picked up not 2 months ago, or I would have been all over them.
It's funny how this stuff isn't seen for years, and then several pop up in a short time.
Now only if another cast magnisium pan would appear........

 

[IJ.]

I could have sold 10 of them when I sold mine

 

[Zazzn]

BC is Chilled cast. I also sell lots of the BC cams. Maybe 1 in 12 or 15 has problems with the CPS gear phasing, which is an easy fix. Some others have problems with the bearing clearance being all over the place. For the most part all batches of BC cams since the first batch, have been pretty good and I have not had problems selling them or installing them. If you want big power, go with big billet cams from Teds or myself. If you want a good street cam for not a lot of money then the BC cams are fine and dandy.

Why do you say big power for billet? Type of material should have nothing to do for power, it's duration and lift of the cams @ .50 which make up the cam specs and how much gains/losses you will see.

Lets see, the last time I told my story (on SupraForums) about the problems I had with my BC264 cams, my post was deleted. Probably by the same username (vender) I see in this thread.

Edit: Not you Rich.

Honestly I hope that wasn't intended for me. BTW I'm not a vender, just a personal seller that has put together GB's with crower since I helped develop the 1jz cams. You are FREE to ask ANYONE that has purchased form me if I have lacked in customer service at all.

Finally, when have you ever seen me try to hide change or modify a post for my personal gain? I'd say I'm the MOST fair moderator in the community as I try to take an outside view and never really give anything other then warnings. As grim said pretty low, I'd never delete a post regarding a review of the cams, if they are shit they are shit if they are good they are good... I'm not here to make a quick buck on everyone's expense. After all I'm selling the cams for a good 100-150$ UNDER any vendor that sells these BC cams because I'm not profiteering.

I honestly believe they are a great product since I have dyno proven results.

I've yet to see any TODA results vs stock, HKS vs stock, TED vs stock.

If you want to be a sucker and pay 3x the price for cams be my guest.

523WHP @ 23 PSI on a 1jz with twin old school k26 turbos is pretty good in my books

647 @ 24 PSI on a 67MM on pump with mech injection is amazing in my books.

Both with BC cams, and that is ONLY my dyno's

 

[figgie]

Figgie - Believe it or not, there are a good number of 7m motors around the world running "real" cams. Just that most of them are not on any car forum.

hey Rich

and there are numerous of us also running real EMS's The propensity is still to cheap out not to open check book and go from there

 

[suprarich]

Why do you say big power for billet? Type of material should have nothing to do for power, it's duration and lift of the cams @ .50 which make up the cam specs and how much gains/losses you will see.

I never said the type of material is related to the hp gain. Your telling an old catfish about some mud when you try to tell me how a cam works.

What I ment is that only in a Billet material will you ever find a large profile cam. No one makes new blank castings large enough to get anywhere near the size cam that you can with a Billet cam.

This is what I mean by saying big power for Billet cams. :icon_bigg

Figgie - Funny how the mk3 Supra world works like that. :biglaugh:

 

[jdub]

I never said the type of material is related to the hp gain. Your telling an old catfish about some mud when you try to tell me how a cam works.

What I ment is that only in a Billet material will you ever find a large profile cam. No one makes new blank castings large enough to get anywhere near the size cam that you can with a Billet cam.

This is what I mean by saying big power for Billet cams. :icon_bigg

LOL...Rich, don't you know the facts are irrelevant on SM? All that matters is what you "hear" from "respected members" of the community :biglaugh:

 

[Moy]

LOL...Rich, don't you know the facts are irrelevant on SM? All that matters is what you "hear" from "respected members" of the community :biglaugh:

Sad, but holds true for a lot of people...

I bet Ian could tell someone to lick his *** and someone would do it, because he is a "respected member" of the community... :nono:

 

[suprarich]

LOL...Rich, don't you know the facts are irrelevant on SM? All that matters is what you "hear" from "respected members" of the community :biglaugh:

Crap... that leaves me out:cry:

 

[IJ.]

Sad, but holds true for a lot of people...

I bet Ian could tell someone to lick his *** and someone would do it, because he is a "respected member" of the community... :nono:

Difference being I'd back it up with some research and facts before making the request.....

 

[jdub]

Crap... that leaves me out :cry:

Far from it actually
You've got a habit of presenting the facts.

Difference being I'd back it up with some research and facts before making the request.....

No question here either!

 

[Zazzn]

I never said the type of material is related to the hp gain. Your telling an old catfish about some mud when you try to tell me how a cam works.

What I ment is that only in a Billet material will you ever find a large profile cam. No one makes new blank castings large enough to get anywhere near the size cam that you can with a Billet cam.

This is what I mean by saying big power for Billet cams. :icon_bigg

Figgie - Funny how the mk3 Supra world works like that. :biglaugh:

Agreed but when you start getting to the lift you are talking about you are not talking about 500HP cars

You are talking about mirbum who needs to massage the head just to fit them huge egg lobes in the head. I can count on my figure how many people with 7m's will be going that far with them.

I don't suspect many 7m guys needing more then .372 lift in cams.. The ones that do will always be getting that one off type stuff.

Hell even the BC cams for the 2jz have .452"/.452 on the full race cams... Which is pretty damn big if you ask me... Maybe too small for someone like BL or WOTM who may want slightly bigger but still you see what I'm saying.

want 2000 HP? Bolt on parts are not likely to work.

Want 500 HP sure no problem. BC is your choice unless you can find TODA's, HKS's or Group A's or something like that.

 

[suprarich]

Agreed but when you start getting to the lift you are talking about you are not talking about 500HP cars

You are talking about mirbum who needs to massage the head just to fit them huge egg lobes in the head. I can count on my figure how many people with 7m's will be going that far with them.

I don't suspect many 7m guys needing more then .372 lift in cams.. The ones that do will always be getting that one off type stuff.

Hell even the BC cams for the 2jz have .452"/.452 on the full race cams... Which is pretty damn big if you ask me... Maybe too small for someone like BL or WOTM who may want slightly bigger but still you see what I'm saying.

want 2000 HP? Bolt on parts are not likely to work.

Want 500 HP sure no problem. BC is your choice unless you can find TODA's, HKS's or Group A's or something like that.

I am not sure about your argument here. I started from the begining saying that for a 500hp street car 7m the BC cams are fine and dandy. And that I have no problems with them. You are arguing against something I had agreed on from the begining.

Now of course when I talk of lift sizes in the range I did, I did not mean for 500 hp cars. This is why I said for big power go billets, I am not talking about BC cams of course. My words were 500 hp = BC cams, Big power = Billet cams

Billet cams are not one off anyway. They are an off the shelf product and I can think of nearly 30 some 7m's around the world with billet cams in them.

So I guess I don't really see where you was going on this because we both agree the sky is blue.

 

[Zazzn]

sorry rich i must have mis read somewhere :love:

 

[suprarich]

You will have that sometimes and twice on Sunday so they say! We are all good!

 

[Kristian_Wraae]

BC is Chilled cast. I also sell lots of the BC cams. Maybe 1 in 12 or 15 has problems with the CPS gear phasing, which is an easy fix. Some others have problems with the bearing clearance being all over the place. For the most part all batches of BC cams since the first batch, have been pretty good and I have not had problems selling them or installing them. If you want big power, go with big billet cams from Teds or myself. If you want a good street cam for not a lot of money then the BC cams are fine and dandy.

Can anyone elaborate on what he means and the fix?