Blue mk3 with racing strip XD FTW! HOpefuly 2jz swap :D/ 6speed help?

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

Trust me you can build a 2JZ better and cheaper then a high millage 7M the parts for 7M are becoming extinct soon the JZ will be next they are into there 8yr range since the last 2JZ-GTE was made.
You can find aristo 2jz motor auto trans sets for 1400-1600.
This will add a factory base horspower increase of 100hp + super reliability even if you can find a 7m jdm engine with low miles it might need head gasket rework too.

So aristo 2JZ auto ecu combo for 1400 + custom 1 piece aluminum drive shaft 400 + JZA70 motor mounts $60 on ebay.
Good luck building any 7M to jz specs for the same amount of money.
Oh yea if you have R154 factor in 300 for bellhousing.

As far as upgrading the engine to a single no problem 550s are good to about 500hp so just tweak your boost up to fuel cut.
Chinaman manifold + cheap hx35 or budget journal bearing turbo with chinaman downpipe is about $500

You need the AFC really only when hitting fuel cut going above that level of boost and anytime you change the injectors.
But 500-600whp no problem with the 2JZ with out even removing a valve cover.

 

[TurboStreetCar]

I don't think your a drag racer. Maybe a street racer. Who wants to run from a roll anyways? And again Traps are at the strip. And slower speeds win if the time is lower. You don't win by going fast. You win by getting there first. So unless your time is lower but you waited to spool your turbo and had a 2 second RT then speed will impress noone that is a drag racer.

Just look at it like this. Duane (Upgradedsupra), Shawn (Besttrans), both have popular 9 second cars here not 130+ cars.

But to each his own.

Well nowhere did i say anything about going from a roll, Only mentioned ET is greatly effected by launch (60'). I also said that MPH is a better gauge of a car because if you have a 130mph car it hypothetically should be quicker then a 120mph car. The reason the 130mph car is slower in time is most likely because it has launch issues. That being said that 130mph car with the launch issues solved will be much quicker then the 120mph car in ET.

My reference to the street is because no car will launch on the street like it will at the track. The launch advantage is reduced and the real race is right where the 130mph car will shine. On the street, which is where 90% of people drive there cars, the car that can MPH faster will usually have the advantage. Its hard to get enough of a jump at the start to be ahead at the end, Not to mention a run on the street will usually go a little longer then a 1/4 mile, especially if its close. If your getting run down by 10MPH its not going to take long before your behind by car lengths.

As far as impressing people, i did not build my car to impress anyone. I agree ET is what gets peoples attention but MPH is just as important of a number and like i said, is a better gauge of what the car is capable of. Based on MPH you can tell how quick a car should ET if it could get a decent launch. You dont see 130+ cars that ET slow because anyone that spent enough money to trap 130mph will spend enough money to make the car 60' quick and therefore ET quick as well.

BTW Seans car goes 148mph. :love:

/Off topicness.

 

[SupraMario]

OH shit are you serious? about the w58? i want the gte so what are you saying i should do?

R154.
Again, I hope you have money and a lot of it.
My car was originally NA with the W58, It now has a 2jzgte mated to a R154.

This swap IS NOT CHEAP.

I dunno how much I can stress this. I don't want you to think I'm saying don't do it, just DON'T DO IT WITH NO MONEY!

Plan on at least 8 grand.

 

[laotionracer101]

o Heard 8 grand man,, i plan on 15 im young and there is much margin for insolence, so the r154 is the way to go? And i like the sound of not crakin the head open

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Hm Kay ima read into this

 

[Cz.]

Really? Where? How do I find this information?

There is a link in my signature, I suggest you read it. Whining about some other member's inability to search is simple litter in our database. Furthermore, it makes the search less effective, because the next time someone searches for "getrag 6speed", they are going to find your useless post instead of actual information they can use.

Try teaching how to use the tools here, instead. That's the difference between constructive criticism and belittlement.

At what point did I even bring up searching? My comment was questioning the OP's statement, it had nothing to do with searching.

I know that you were called out for posting about the very thing you're accusing me of, so I'm well aware that it isn't an effective tool.

 

[GrimJack]

At what point did I even bring up searching? My comment was questioning the OP's statement, it had nothing to do with searching.

I know that you were called out for posting about the very thing you're accusing me of, so I'm well aware that it isn't an effective tool.

My apology for mentioning searching, however, I stand by my assessment. Your post is belittling, when it should be instructive. You accuse the OP of being either a liar or ignorant, yet offer no tips to remedy either problem, beyond the vague 'reading'.

Furthermore, I've been called out on a number of things, which is more than acceptable. At no point have I claimed to be perfect, or a vast fountain of knowledge. I am wrong now and then, and I even *gasp* make mistakes. At which point I admit them, apologize to the affected parties, and move on.

However, I cannot recall an instance where I was accused of belittlement. I *have* occasionally started threads about something that should have turned up in a simple search - three times that I can recall off the top of my head, as a matter of fact.

 

[laotionracer101]

My apology for mentioning searching, however, I stand by my assessment. Your post is belittling, when it should be instructive. You accuse the OP of being either a liar or ignorant, yet offer no tips to remedy either problem, beyond the vague 'reading'.

Thank you grim jack that's what i kinda thought about,

 

[JPsToyota]

I don't think your a drag racer. Maybe a street racer. Who wants to run from a roll anyways? And again Traps are at the strip. And slower speeds win if the time is lower. You don't win by going fast. You win by getting there first. So unless your time is lower but you waited to spool your turbo and had a 2 second RT then speed will impress noone that is a drag racer.

Just look at it like this. Duane (Upgradedsupra), Shawn (Besttrans), both have popular 9 second cars here not 130+ cars.

But to each his own.

Well said.

 

[KMinAF]

Isn't the R154 a Getrag designed trans?

 

[laotionracer101]

Isn't the R154 a Getrag designed trans?

Not the 6speed though if it is

 

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

The R154 is a truck trans though.
It is designed made by Aisin.

 

[laotionracer101]

Any of you guys thought about using the t56?

 

[87mk111]

Someone on here is using one with a 1.5jz, check in the supra gallery section

 

[Cz.]

My apology for mentioning searching, however, I stand by my assessment. Your post is belittling, when it should be instructive. You accuse the OP of being either a liar or ignorant, yet offer no tips to remedy either problem, beyond the vague 'reading'.

Furthermore, I've been called out on a number of things, which is more than acceptable. At no point have I claimed to be perfect, or a vast fountain of knowledge. I am wrong now and then, and I even *gasp* make mistakes. At which point I admit them, apologize to the affected parties, and move on.

However, I cannot recall an instance where I was accused of belittlement. I *have* occasionally started threads about something that should have turned up in a simple search - three times that I can recall off the top of my head, as a matter of fact.

I haven’t been on in a while but seeing as you’re still trying to lecture me on this…

At no point did I say that you were perfect or otherwise, my comment in regards to your track record was to only say that I am reading and I am “learning” from it. The comment really had nothing to do with you at all.

Sorry I did not realize that this forum was about holding each others hand and spoon feeding every thing to people. Personally I see my post as being honest and blunt. I hate to bring up age, but since the OP is only sixteen, most kids I’ve dealt with from that age group seem to think that a few pages in a book is “a lot of reading”. Regardless, the fact that he’s asking such a common question makes it seem obvious that his “I’ve done a lot of reading” remark is either false or poorly managed. Not even knowing the W58’s capabilities drives this mark even harder.

Let’s put things into perspective, I purchased my second supra as an almost bare shell and have swapped a 2jz into it. Every single aspect of the build regarding parts, etc was researched by me. From the size of the fuel lines, injectors, turbo, ECU, etc, almost everything was carefully researched in regards to the brand, performance, and what my plans were. I’ve spent days worth of time learning about different aspects of the car, a lot of it wasn’t even on supramania. If you search threads I’ve made, you’ll see that I have hardly made any. The fact of the matter is the information is out there, if you don’t care enough to look for yourself on what you want to find out, then you’re probably not ready for a full on build.

Everybody on here started from zero, looking at the oldest thread I made, almost all the questions I posted are painfully obvious to me now. When I see legitimate technical questions that haven’t been answered I always attempt to provide my observations and experience regarding the issue, that’s the point of the forum. But posts about swapping in the getrag are on the same level as “how much boost do I need for XXXhp”, or “I have these mods on my car, do you think I can beat X car?” they’re clueless questions, and as far as those are concerned, I’m not going to sugarcoat my answers so that I don’t hurt the OP’s feelings.

Any of you guys thought about using the t56?

The T56 looks like a good option for a 6-speed, the gearing for some of the versions would fit with a stock mk3 rearend. However, from what I have read, no one makes a kit so you would need to have all the mounts, driveshaft, etc custom made. There is another member on here who made a thread about his T56 swap, I don't believe he has actually finished it though.

 

[laotionracer101]

The T56 looks like a good option for a 6-speed, the gearing for some of the versions would fit with a stock mk3 rearend. However, from what I have read, no one makes a kit so you would need to have all the mounts, driveshaft, etc custom made. There is another member on here who made a thread about his T56 swap, I don't believe he has actually finished it though.

well as far as i have seen also there are just schematics online regarding the tranny and mounts driveshaft etc. would easily be fabricated, thanks for the gearing help ;D, and i subscribed the that guys thread haha