Automatic to Manual?

kntmikado

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No, he means "Search!!". As in use the little button marked "Search" before you ask such common questions. I'll even give you a suggestion for a search string: automatic manual conversion

Make sure to enter it exactly as shown. I just used this string and got lots of good results. It's not my way to do other peoples' work, so I'll let you use the search button on your own. It'll be good practice.

Since you only have 3 posts, I'll also go a little out of my way and provide you with a very important link. READ THE WHOLE THING. Yes, I know it's long. It will take a while to read, but if you can't do that, then.. I'm at a loss for what to say to you. The contents of that link are vital to doing well here, and it's a shame that more people haven't read it.

Here you go:

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30734&highlight=oldschool
 

Figit090

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the search "auto, manual, swap" gave me several good threads, some which have even more links and help inside. the idea behind the search feature is so newbies like you can find old threads on stuff that has already been asked...as well as a reference point for those that already know what they are doing. try again and look through threads carefully. this exact same question has been asked before.

this thread is part of your "asking for help." Not your "search," because you arent searching.

here's one thread i found with some info. not sure if its what you need, but its a start. good luck. if you have problems with what you find, or something specific to your problem, or something very hard to find...we're here to help.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24287&highlight=auto+manual+swap
 

Figit090

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thanks, you to for showing him the very important link EVERYONE should read. i might just put it in my sig like some others have. i thought of it but was too lazy to go find the link...lol.
 

dannydavi

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first off i apologize to that first dude, i didnt realize there was an actual search option on this forum, i guess only because there isnt one on the last forum i was just in, and i have been searching for that answer on several dif sites and forums, and all i found was that one link that i posted for the MKIV, but thanks for the input guys
 

supraman7mgte

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i'll give some advice as far as the change out. i have heard it is as basic as a clutch replacement,only adding a different d shaft and the clutch pedal and all the assorted parts that go with it. as far as where it is on the forums/search,who knows. sometimes it works,and sometimes it does not.
and as far as people just saying,"search",he's right. just don't post if you don't have anything benificial to input. he's got a serious question,and you giving him empty answers.
 

kntmikado

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I don't want to start a flame war, but...

...if everyone were to go around answering everyone's questions all the time, the Search button would be pretty useless. If someone says "Search!" as their post, there's definitely a good reason. It's even a "beneficial post" since it's more or less telling the op how to find the info they want. Why clutter up the forums and waste everyone's time with 321688186874365168413584 threads about the same topic? Granted a little more than just that is nice, but it's not required.
 

2543arvin

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dannydavi said:
first off i apologize to that first dude, i didnt realize there was an actual search option on this forum, i guess only because there isnt one on the last forum i was just in, and i have been searching for that answer on several dif sites and forums, and all i found was that one link that i posted for the MKIV, but thanks for the input guys
no problem man, i dont get offended by people on the internet anyway, its useless, all i meant was that that topic has been covered many times on this forum...but good luck:icon_bigg
 

CRE

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ROFL... SF's ever loosing battle against their search engine is killing the internet as we know it! :evil2:


Here's one more thing to think about. When you reply with nothing more than "Search" it adds to the number of bogus hits someone's going to see when they do search. If you're going to chastize someone for not searching either post the answer as well or don't post... Otherwise, you're not helping at all. :3d_frown:
 

supraman7mgte

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:naughty: i know,i know.
i try to help out as much as i can and avoid telling the questioner to just simply search. at least pointing in the right direction is better than nothing at all.
 

dannydavi

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thanks everyone for joining in on this conv, mostly, even by using the search i only found things i already either know, or have found before, my main question was if anyone new of a tutorial like the one i posted, it was perfectly done, with pictures and step by step instructions, only problem is... it is for MKIV, but i have all the basics by now guys so thank... but if yall find a tut like the one previously stated please do share. thanks guys.
 

2543arvin

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i didnt see this thread making it any easier for you to do your conversion so i did some searching for you and i found a few things...this is a list of parts that another member on this forum posted when he had to do his auto to manual conversion:

Description Part Number Qty
R154 Transmission Bell Housing
Clutch Housing Cover #1 Gasket 31122-14010 1
Clutch Housing Cover #2 Gasket 31124-14010 1
Bolts: Cover to Bell Housing 91651-40814 4
Bolts: Bell Housing to Block 90119-10019 4

R154 Transmission Transmission Case
Bolts: Bell Housing to Case 91611-61045 9
Drain Plug Gasket 90430-18008 1

R154 Transmission Extension Housing
Oil Seal 90311-40001 1
Extension Housing Plug Gasket 90430-18008 1
Plug 90331-18001 1
Deflector, Extension Housing Dust 33146-30010 1
Bolts: Ext Housing to Case 90119-10186 9
Bolts: Ext Housing to Case 90119-10337 1

Flywheel Assembly
Flywheel 130591 1
Flywheel Bolts 90105-10042 6
Piolt Bearing 90363-12002 1

Clutch Assembly
Clutch 00602-31201-0111
Pressure Plate In Kit
Pressure Plate Bolts 90119-08026 6
Throwout Bearing In Kit 1

Clutch Fork Assembly
Clutch Release Bearing Washer 90201-71001 1
Clutch Release Bearing Wave Washer 90206-72001 1
Clutch Release Bearing Snap Ring 90520-67001 1
Clutch Thrust Cone Spring Washer 90201-45023 1
Clutch Thrust Cone Spring 31264-14040 1
Clutch Release Bearing 31231-14040 1
Clutch Release Fork 31204-14031 1
Release Fork Support Spring 31234-14030 1
Release Fork Support 31236-14020 1
Mounting Bolts 90119-08640 2

Master Cylinder
Master Cylinder 31410-14193 1
Mounting Nuts 90179-08038 2

Slave Cylinder
Slave Cylinder 31470-14050 1
Mounting Bolt 91611-60822 2

Clutch Lines
Hard Line from Master Cylinder 31481-14230 1
Flexible Hose 96816-50230 1
Clip 96991-10080 2
Bracket 31484-14070 1
Hard Line from Slave Cylinder 31482-14030 1

Lower Tranny Braces
Stiffener Plate Right Hand Side 33118-14051 1
Mounting Bolt 90119-10419 2
Mounting Bolt 91651-61040 1
Mounting Bolt 91611-61035 1
Stiffener Plate Left Hand Side 33119-14070 1
Mounting Bolt 91611-61028 1
Mounting Bolt 91651-61035 1
Mounting Bolt 91611-61035 2

Lower Bellhousing Cover
Cover & Gasket 31128-14010 1

Brake Pedal
Brake Pedal 47101-14190 1
Bushings 90386-13015 2
Pedal Pad 31321-14020 1

Clutch Pedal Assembly
Clutch Pedal Assembly
Clutch Pedal Spring Seat Upper Bushing 90386-10019 1
Clutch Pedal Bushing 90386-13015 2
Clutch Master Cylinder Push Rod Bushing 90386-08010 1
Pedal Pad 31321-14020 1

Shifter Assembly
Shift Lever Assembly
Shift Boot 33555-22050 1
Shift Lever Retainer Assembly
Bolts 91611-60840 6

Drive Shaft
Drive Shaft MTM:Al 1

im still looking for a "howto" section, but i cant find it just yet...you should ask suprahero if he has any info, hes done the conversion before.
good luck
 

mkiiSupraMan18

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^ I've done it quite a few times. If you need help just let me know and I'll get you squared away. :icon_bigg

If you were closer, I'd even offer to help w/ the swap.

*edit*
I'll make a 'how to' from memory while Im sitting here. Might as well do something while I'm doing nothing...
 

mkiiSupraMan18

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basically, 2 ways to do the swap... Pull the engine/trans together, or just drop the trans.

As per the ussual, my pref is to pull the engine/trans together and do whatever else you want to do to the engine while it's out. (pan gasket, main seals, bearings, oil pump, w/e else you can think of.) To do this, start by draining all the fluids (trans fluid, coolant, oil doesn't really need to be drained) Pull the radiator, D/C the boost hoses, oil and trans lines, take off all of the intake pipes, DC all of the plugs coming from the body harness to the engine near the alternator, D/C the fuel line, pull the + and - cables from the battery so they are loose and can remain connected to the starter and block (batt should be D/Cd before work is started, btw) remove wairing harness **see later**, jack the car up, take out the 4 drive shaft bolts, remove the 2 carrier bearing bolts from the body, pull out the driveshaft from the trans, D/C the shift linkage from the pass side of the trans as well as the speedo cable, put a jack under the trans, undo the 4 bolts, move back toward the front of the engine, take off the lower engine/trans brackets, remove inspection plate, take out the torque converter bolts (will be easier than doing it w/ the engine hanging on the cherry picker), undo the 2 engine mount bolts from the bottom of the engine (going up from the bottom), lower the car back down *watch the jack on the trans*, hook your chain to the engine, lift engine up until it 'pops' loose, then bring it up... forwards... up... forward... up.. for... you get it. The trick is to get to people and have one person stand on the trans to keep it from raping your firewall and to make them feel important. TADA!

**intake**
Some people feel like pulling the actual intake plenum off and DC'ing every freaking plug on the engine, but I have found it easier to take out the glove box and top cover inside it, take the 4 screws out of the ECU, unhook all of the clips coming from the engine harness, and just pulling it out through the firewall. Dont worry about not being able to get it back through, it's really easy w/ some needle nose pliers and a little bit of patience.




now to the 'swap'.
Take out the Auto brake pedal, 1 bolt and a pin I think, it's pretty obvious what you have to do. put the clutch pedal assy up into place (note front bolt hole is hiddin by the rubber cover thing under the dash) go back out to the engine bay, pop out the plugs for the clutch MC. shove it in the holes, tighten it up (two nuts inside the car... complete PITA, IMO, put a new one in when you do it $40 well spent) hook up the clutch pedal w/ the pin, adjust it out until it doesn't turn easily w/ your fingers.

Run clutch line down to the Slave area.

Take off starter and the rest of the trans bolts. pull apart engine/trans. take off flexplate. Replace rear main seal (you're already there...) install pilot bearing, put on newly resurfaced flywheel :icon_bigg put clutch disc on, noting flywheel side is on the right side, pressure plate/TOB, and torque to spec (14lbs or somethng weak like that) put r154 onto engine, tighten up, install throw out bearing fork, put starter back on, replace the engine/trans braces. Oh, and do whatever work you want to do while engine/trans are seperated. ***JUMP THE NEAUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH*** I did mine by cutting the old plug from the trans and tying the two correct wires together and putting it back onto the harness on the engine.

Remove auto shifter from car...

put it back in w/ the order reversed.

Instal clutch slave, bleed clutch system, put on the 5sp front half of the driveshaft... fill trans up w/ gear oil, reinstall speedo cable... reinstall radiator, add coolant, reconnect the oil cooler lines, put boost hoses back on, double check all your connections, and you should me pretty much there.

anything I missed, my bad.
 

RazoE

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kntmikado said:
<< Automatics are also nice if you do a lot of city driving. Stop/go + clutch = not fun.


I used to think the same thing, and it was my one single excuse not to learn stick..

When I got my Supra I had to learn how to drive it (it was stick), or walk, so I learned..

All you gotta do is leave it in 1st, and gas it to about 1000 rpms and let the clutch out slowly, you'll creep forward, inches at a time, then put the clutch back in and brake...

it's not that hard..