Different strokes for different folks. And I mean that very literal in this case. no one on this shite should ever talk about 'there's no replacement for displacement.' I don't see anyone swapping to any UZ engines except for a few. It has more displacement, must be better, right? =/ We're not talking about muscle cars. A turbo engine will make as much power as it's turbo and head will allow it to flow. If a turbo is rated at 500hp it will make 500hp. One engine might do it at 4000RPM and another might do it at 8000RPM. But who cares where your engine makes power as long as it is making power? If your engine makes power higher in the RPM range, all you have to do is drop down a gear or launch at a higher RPM.
I for one will keep the 2.5L block in my car. no 1.5J or 2J. The only different is the stroke. Big deal, the engine will need to rev a bit more. But so what? It's very capable of handling the extra rev range. I get tired of people doubting the potential of the 1J because it's displacement. It comes up far too often. People wanna fall back on the "oh 1J doesn't have the torque, it's too small" arguement. Most of the people saying it have never even driven or been in a 1J powered car or don't have anything better to say. Turbo lag and low end torque are so overrated to me.
When does all that 'torque' mean anything? I've ran cars with bigger engines. If I beat them I always pull instantly. Any car I've raced and beat has never gotten jump on me before I pulled on them. And if they beat me it's the same deal. I hardly think 'torque' or lack there of had anything to do with that. It's power... I can make full boost before 3000RPM and it doesn't drop off.
I don't miss my 7M or the extra .5L one bit at all. Everyone needs to do their own research and draw their own conclusions about each motor if you ask me. These threads only go so far and we're all too stubborn and parochial to a certain extent when it comes to this topic.
That said, I'll make the disclaimer so people don't get the wrong idea or butt hurt or anything. I respect the 7M and like seeing and riding in the 7M cars some of the local socal guys have and reading the updates on the builds here from IJ, Steve(group A) and others. I'm anxious to see how Aaron's(bigaaron's) car feels when he gets the tune down and ups the boost. I'm also very confident when I give my car to him and Jose to upgrade to single setup using the same turbo, the power results will be very similar out of my 1J.
I for one will keep the 2.5L block in my car. no 1.5J or 2J. The only different is the stroke. Big deal, the engine will need to rev a bit more. But so what? It's very capable of handling the extra rev range. I get tired of people doubting the potential of the 1J because it's displacement. It comes up far too often. People wanna fall back on the "oh 1J doesn't have the torque, it's too small" arguement. Most of the people saying it have never even driven or been in a 1J powered car or don't have anything better to say. Turbo lag and low end torque are so overrated to me.
When does all that 'torque' mean anything? I've ran cars with bigger engines. If I beat them I always pull instantly. Any car I've raced and beat has never gotten jump on me before I pulled on them. And if they beat me it's the same deal. I hardly think 'torque' or lack there of had anything to do with that. It's power... I can make full boost before 3000RPM and it doesn't drop off.
I don't miss my 7M or the extra .5L one bit at all. Everyone needs to do their own research and draw their own conclusions about each motor if you ask me. These threads only go so far and we're all too stubborn and parochial to a certain extent when it comes to this topic.
That said, I'll make the disclaimer so people don't get the wrong idea or butt hurt or anything. I respect the 7M and like seeing and riding in the 7M cars some of the local socal guys have and reading the updates on the builds here from IJ, Steve(group A) and others. I'm anxious to see how Aaron's(bigaaron's) car feels when he gets the tune down and ups the boost. I'm also very confident when I give my car to him and Jose to upgrade to single setup using the same turbo, the power results will be very similar out of my 1J.
