Ok, I know most of the basics of building a decent drift car but i'm interested in hearing what you guys have to say about suspension, brake system, and some of the engine performance. I will be getting the driftmotion 57trim kit with 550cc siemens injectors but other than that I want to hear your suggestions for building a decent solid mk3 1JZ Supra. I have a JIC gold suspension, all other advise would be great.
Attempt at building my drift 1JZ Supra
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BIG oil cooler, PS cooler and hydrofan coolers, don't want any of that to boil over. I would go with the Doward front brakes, with MKIV rear brakes, although you will most likely lose the E-Brake. See if you can rig up a hydrolic e-brake. Make sure to use a quality intercooler that will not heat soak, and if you need to, run fans behind the coolers. A good setup would be the oil cooler in the center, behind the IC, with the PS cooler behind where the driver fog would be and the Hydrofan cooler behind the passenger fog, all with small puller fans behind them.
Performance, use a BIC DDP, a standalone (stinger would be a good one for low costs) and a 3-3.5" exhaust.
Talk to TIP about getting more steering angle out of the front, he has a couple ways to make that happen.
Good luck, have fun and tastefully modify the body.
Performance, use a BIC DDP, a standalone (stinger would be a good one for low costs) and a 3-3.5" exhaust.
Talk to TIP about getting more steering angle out of the front, he has a couple ways to make that happen.
Good luck, have fun and tastefully modify the body.
I currently have a Greddy IC with hard piping and will for sure look into coolers for the oil, ps and hydrofan. I already have steering angle in the front and a slight angle in the rear. but as in sway bars and stiffening the frame as to stop any possible body roll what would be recommended because i'm not too knowledgable in suspension components. Also would i be able to run nitto tires on my work wheels on that would be fine? Or would it be recommended that I get a set of Lightweight rims and a recommended set of rubbers to match up? thx for all input so far.
TIP would be the best person to talk to about the suspention, as he has set up MKIIIs with custom components for drift and auto-x. You are going to want some cheap ass tires that tend to hold up decently well to abuse, look into Sumatomo HTRs. IMO, I would keep expensive wheels off of this, as they will have a tendancy to get hurt on the track. Get a set of cheap wheels that look nice, and put the sumatomos on them, and run the works for the street.
Alright thanks a lot for the help guys and if anyone else has any advice feel free. And just one last question who exactly is TIP?
If you're Serious.
The Doward Brakes (while an Upgrade) may or maynot cut it.
I'd go with an ARZ Performance Kit if you're serious. Whats 900 dollars more for a BBK to a serious racer.
I'm planning on tracking my Car, i almost bought a Doward kit. But for my intents and purposes i'm going with an ARZ 4or6 Piston 13inch kit.
The Doward Brakes (while an Upgrade) may or maynot cut it.
I'd go with an ARZ Performance Kit if you're serious. Whats 900 dollars more for a BBK to a serious racer.
I'm planning on tracking my Car, i almost bought a Doward kit. But for my intents and purposes i'm going with an ARZ 4or6 Piston 13inch kit.
Where coukd i find the ARZ brake kit because I was planning on getting those anyway but can't seem to find a proper seller of this kit.
You dont need crazy brakes at all for drift. You need WEIGHT REDUCTION, bushings, lower center of gravity, SEAT, GOOD LSD, Corrected geometry to go with that lowered center of gravity, good ebrake, and a million other things no one is talking about.
But really, trying to drift a car that's over 3000 lbs feels like total shit. Do the diet first. I'm down almost 400lbs from stock weight so I know you can do it.
But really, trying to drift a car that's over 3000 lbs feels like total shit. Do the diet first. I'm down almost 400lbs from stock weight so I know you can do it.
But see the thing is I understand what you mean reduce the weight and everything but honestly if you know how to drift properly you should be able to do it in any car no matter the weight because i haven't torn my car down at all, all stock interior and i can drift the thing hard without losing the rear end and i'm running about 305 rwhp right now and i've been using my 18" work wheel rims with low pro tires and can drift harder than most people i know but ya i know its obviously easier to drift with lighter car but right now i'm just wondering about suspension and performance. Like would the 57 trim turbo with a .68 AR exhaust housing from driftmotion be good for what i'm trying to build.
Lots of pro drifters run big heavy cars so the "only light cars" is busted. Look at the GTO, Viper, Mustang, 4dr Skyline, Vette, etc. Still a good idea to put her on a diet. I am trimming the weight on my 88 and hope to have it around 3000lbs.
As for Turbo I would sat there are better options than the CT26 for you. The swap kit is 400.00 and the turbo is 600.00. That will only give you 400whp or so. I would encourage you to do a true T3 or a T3/4 hybrid. Also please do not buy an oil only turbo!(Greddy too)! You are wasting money big time!!
With suspension...Tanabe and ST are your best for sway bars. The Tanabe are newer to the scene and more expensive. I haven't heard anybody say anything about stiffness between the 2.
For brakes, sheck out Precision Brakes. I have used his kits on a couple of other projects with alot of luck. They are reasonably priced with great results.
As for Turbo I would sat there are better options than the CT26 for you. The swap kit is 400.00 and the turbo is 600.00. That will only give you 400whp or so. I would encourage you to do a true T3 or a T3/4 hybrid. Also please do not buy an oil only turbo!(Greddy too)! You are wasting money big time!!
With suspension...Tanabe and ST are your best for sway bars. The Tanabe are newer to the scene and more expensive. I haven't heard anybody say anything about stiffness between the 2.
For brakes, sheck out Precision Brakes. I have used his kits on a couple of other projects with alot of luck. They are reasonably priced with great results.
Light car can do things that heavy car can't possible do. And the brakes work better. Everything works better/faster.
As far as all the pros using heavy cars NONE of them are even close to stock curb weight.
If you're talking about drifting in the sense of going sideways and not killing yourself I suppose it doesnt matter. As far as really pushing it goes. I'm sticking to my point.
If I were you I wouldn't do any power adder or brakes. Make the car handle better seriously. Btw, what spring rates are you running? What tire? What lsd? Just curious.
Those who say weight doesn't matter. What experiences are you basing that off?
As far as all the pros using heavy cars NONE of them are even close to stock curb weight.
If you're talking about drifting in the sense of going sideways and not killing yourself I suppose it doesnt matter. As far as really pushing it goes. I'm sticking to my point.
If I were you I wouldn't do any power adder or brakes. Make the car handle better seriously. Btw, what spring rates are you running? What tire? What lsd? Just curious.
Those who say weight doesn't matter. What experiences are you basing that off?
I never said it doesn't matter. I was defending his choice of a car. Granted those cars are YES very different from stock and YES lighter is always better!!
Absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to drift a Supra. Just a matter of personal preference. If it was all about having the lightest car to start with, then why is there so much diversity in the pro circuits? Mostly a matter of what the driver is more comfortable with. Besides, there are plenty of success stories with Supras in Motorsports, despite their obvious weight handicap. GT500 series?
Absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to drift a Supra. Just a matter of personal preference. If it was all about having the lightest car to start with, then why is there so much diversity in the pro circuits? Mostly a matter of what the driver is more comfortable with. Besides, there are plenty of success stories with Supras in Motorsports, despite their obvious weight handicap. GT500 series?
Not arguing its viability at all okay? Just saying weight is the first thing you should be doing. But a lightened supra is 1000% more viable than a heavy one. It would do everything better period. I never said get a lighter car. I said make a lighter one.
People choose a given chassis for the reasons you said. And diff wheelbase, track, etc. Everything has a positive I know. I drift a cressida for christs sake!
People choose a given chassis for the reasons you said. And diff wheelbase, track, etc. Everything has a positive I know. I drift a cressida for christs sake!
As for spring rate i'm not even really sure because i'm lets say new to the suspension scene because i'm usually more about power but i'm getting serious into the drifting scene and need some help with some of the technical suspension stuff. And as for the tanabe sway bars where could i pick those up.
Dude its the opposite of building a regular supra guy type of car.
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