Arrgh, blew my turbo outlet hose.....again...my desperate attempt for a solution lol

IwantMKIII

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Well if you read this post: http://www.wvstreets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22845

you'd know my car blew its second turbo outlet hose 90miles away from morgantown, wv a few days ago. Talk about a trip back up those mountains hitting feul cut every step...damn that sucked. anyway, heres what happened, almost same place as the previous pipe.









This is the original, stock, pipe thickness, as you can see its quite a bit thicker however i thought due to the extra reinforcement of the other pipe it would hold longer....guess not, the heat was too much i assume





So kels and i went to like 50003295t780124098aslea935jht stores and got nowhere with finding a replacement. Went to toyota dealership and my suspicions were confirmed, the hose (rubber) cost $121.5x!!!! its 1.5 ft long TOPS! i said fuck that. I needed my car and soon. Sooo i got the bright idea of 'fixing' the existing pipe :flipout: . Off to lowes we went. And here are the results:






^where the hole used to be



I used three metal couplers and 4 metal clamps to reinforce the plastic. I double wrapped the straight run with a gasket material i had to had extra tensile strength to the plastic, it also reduces heat transfer from the metal couplers which keeps the rubber stronger. As for the hole, i used an epoxy (not silicon simply because of the oil from the PVC system will penetrate silicon) and patched it with the gasket material. It was then covered with the metal coupler. While i don't expect the epoxy to actually stick to the epoxy to seal it, im actually expecting the force of air over the rubber to create a seal against the epoxy and/or gasket :thumb: . i can only hope oil will not penetrate it until i can find a more permanent solution.

And for those wondering why i didn't use coupler all the way through and cover all the rubber, well it doesn't really matter much as stress/pressure is a factor of area



BTW, if anyone has a link for a cheaper hardpipe, please feel free to post a link. money is tight FYI.
 
plaaya69

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On that link. You probably can find a metal pipe on ebaymotors or I would upgrade the whole intercooler piping.

How much boost are you running?
 
IwantMKIII

IwantMKIII

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plaaya69 said:
On that link. You probably can find a metal pipe on ebaymotors or I would upgrade the whole intercooler piping.

How much boost are you running?
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all intercooler piping has been replaced, check the sig, EXCEPT for that damn pipe....argh
 
iamshawn

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did u check your turbo and make sure u not missing any of the propeller/fins ?

that's hard to imagine a hole like that from just boost.
 
Adjuster

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I'm guessing your talking about the hose between the turbo outlet, and the lower cast fitting on the right frame rail?

Easy as can be to fix this, and you'll feel right at home shopping at Blowes or Home Despot. :) :)

First, remove your drainpipe bastardization, and cut off the part that failed. You should find that the lower end of the hose is in good shape compared to the end up near the exhaust manifold.... (You only need about 4" of this pipe when your done...)

Then remove the cast IC fitting on your frame rail. Keep the bolt, you might use it again.

Go to your hardware store of choice, and find the electrical isle. Then look for metal conduit sweeps. (90 degree sweep, in 2" or 2.5" IIRC, there is only one size that will work with your hose, so BRING THE HOSE WITH YOU TO THE STORE. Saves on gas to return the sweep for another later... LOL)

Now, with a good end of your stock IC pipe hose slipped onto the turbo outlet, and your new metal sweep installed on that hose too, note where you will need to cut the sweep to fit up with your lower FMIC fitting/hose. (BTW, this leftover pipe fits perfectly where the flat pipe section of the upper IC pipe resides.. so you can get two replacements in just one 7.00 conduit pipe...)

Ok, mark the conduit, and then cut it with a hacksaw or similar device. I added small welded beads on the ends to keep them from blowing out of the hose. In a pinch, you can flair out the ends slightly to help keep them in place too. (Just do not go crazy with the flair, or your hoses will not slip over the bell ends.. the idea is to create a mechanical barrier that the tight clamp will not just slip over easy. If you have a bead roller, then you could go there, but other than IJ, I've not seen many of those in household garages.. :) )


Apply paint if you want, but the conduit is zinc coated, so they will not rust much anyway. (Just where you cut them will rust.)

I used one for years on the stock pipes. It picked up 2psi just from this mod, and NO other changes. (IT flows that much better than the stock setup, the cast fitting is the plug in the hole for flow, so removing it is a good free mod for those on a budget.)

Oh, and my current setup? I'm still using a short section of this same conduit pipe.. it's ID is actually slightly larger than the outlet on the T-70, even though the T-70 is supposed to have a 2.5" outlet...
 
IwantMKIII

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Adjuster said:
I'm guessing your talking about the hose between the turbo outlet, and the lower cast fitting on the right frame rail?

Easy as can be to fix this, and you'll feel right at home shopping at Blowes or Home Despot. :) :)

First, remove your drainpipe bastardization, and cut off the part that failed. You should find that the lower end of the hose is in good shape compared to the end up near the exhaust manifold.... (You only need about 4" of this pipe when your done...)

Then remove the cast IC fitting on your frame rail. Keep the bolt, you might use it again.

Go to your hardware store of choice, and find the electrical isle. Then look for metal conduit sweeps. (90 degree sweep, in 2" or 2.5" IIRC, there is only one size that will work with your hose, so BRING THE HOSE WITH YOU TO THE STORE. Saves on gas to return the sweep for another later... LOL)

Now, with a good end of your stock IC pipe hose slipped onto the turbo outlet, and your new metal sweep installed on that hose too, note where you will need to cut the sweep to fit up with your lower FMIC fitting/hose. (BTW, this leftover pipe fits perfectly where the flat pipe section of the upper IC pipe resides.. so you can get two replacements in just one 7.00 conduit pipe...)

Ok, mark the conduit, and then cut it with a hacksaw or similar device. I added small welded beads on the ends to keep them from blowing out of the hose. In a pinch, you can flair out the ends slightly to help keep them in place too. (Just do not go crazy with the flair, or your hoses will not slip over the bell ends.. the idea is to create a mechanical barrier that the tight clamp will not just slip over easy. If you have a bead roller, then you could go there, but other than IJ, I've not seen many of those in household garages.. :) )


Apply paint if you want, but the conduit is zinc coated, so they will not rust much anyway. (Just where you cut them will rust.)

I used one for years on the stock pipes. It picked up 2psi just from this mod, and NO other changes. (IT flows that much better than the stock setup, the cast fitting is the plug in the hole for flow, so removing it is a good free mod for those on a budget.)

Oh, and my current setup? I'm still using a short section of this same conduit pipe.. it's ID is actually slightly larger than the outlet on the T-70, even though the T-70 is supposed to have a 2.5" outlet...
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Awesome suggestion man, ill look into it this weekend
 
americanjebus

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OMG.

Just go to some freakin exhaust shop and have them bend a random 2'' or 2.5'' peice of scrap pipe at a 45 degree angle and buy two silicon couplers. Cost ~$30. Or if you feel like a REAL bawler just order a section of piping from JCwhitney or Summit and have it bent or cut up at an exhaust shop. Its amazing what people can create when they take the time to whip out a ruler.

probably less than what you spent and bLowes.


BTW. i have ordered from speed source, it was a looong time ago but the turn around was good, i believe it was shipped like 2 days after payment and received 4 days later w/ ups ground. Good product just a bit short, and its only 2'' so your better off making your own.
 
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jtran8

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you can check it in my profile " picgallery" the black pipe is speedsource 2." with 2.5" elbow coupler reducer that i'm not using . it's direct fit driftmotion intercooler ; the 2.5" pipe is currently on my supra .
 
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hey IWANTMKIII ! i didn't know you have 57trim , my 2." intercooler hard pipe maybe not big enough for your turbo . so i found this 2.5" intercooler hardpipe for you on "ebay ", i don't know how to post picture , but i wrote down these numbers (300178001776) hurry up and get this pipe ,you'll love it . the same one i have on my supra.:love:
 
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IwantMKIII

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jtran8 said:
hey IWANTMKIII ! i didn't know you have 57trim , my 2." intercooler hard pipe maybe not big enough for your turbo . so i found this 2.5" intercooler hardpipe for you on "ebay ", i don't know how to post picture , but i wrote down these numbers (300178001776) hurry up and get this pipe ,you'll love it . the same one i have on my supra.:love:
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no i don' thave 57trim yet, but its in the near future. I have full 2.5" except this one pipe :3d_frown: doesn't matter now though since my supra is down for the count :cry:
 
starscream5000

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jtran8 said:
hey IWANTMKIII ! i didn't know you have 57trim , my 2." intercooler hard pipe maybe not big enough for your turbo . so i found this 2.5" intercooler hardpipe for you on "ebay ", i don't know how to post picture , but i wrote down these numbers (300178001776) hurry up and get this pipe ,you'll love it . the same one i have on my supra.:love:
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SOLD! nukkas ;)

I was actually needing this. I was going to have my lower pipes welded together, but no need with the piece, it looks to be just right.
 
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