ARG. Stupid cars!

annoyingrob

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First off, I HATE fixing my friend's cars. It's always due to neglect, something they could have easily fixed earlier, but now has blossomed into this big problem. Naturally they all come back to me for help, and it frustrates me.

So, my friend asks me to find him a cool car, the thought being that if he has a cool car, he thinks he'll want to take care of it rather than a shitty one. I understand that, it's cool. So, naturally, I get him a Supra.

A week passes, he loves the car, but it suddenly stops working. I tell him it's probably an ignition issue, as it was running a little rough when we got it, and the previous owner was some dumb girl who took NO care of the car. I agree to fix it, I feel bad, as I was the one who picked this car out for him.

So, I replace the plugs, the cap, and rotor, which should have made a world of difference, as the old ones were gross. It doesn't start. I do some more checking, and notice there's no fuel flowing when I engage the pump. "The fuel pump's bad". I get frustrated, and tell him I don't want to change his damn pump, take it to the mechanic.

The mechanic tells him the pumps bad, and it's going to cost $800. He calls me back. Reluctantly, I agree to fix it. So, I drop the tank, and notice it's very light. Sort of like there's no gas in it. I put 10L of gas in it, and hey, the pump magically works now! I spent 4 hours in the cold dropping, and putting the tank back in only because it was out of gas.

Previous owner neglected to tell us the gas gauge didn't work. Funny because when it stopped, the first thing I said to him was "Is it out of gas?" "Of course not, it still has half a tank". I thought to my self "Does the gas gauge work?" But no, I just kept that to myself. Car runs PERFECT now. Never been better. Bah!
 

Jayhall

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i dont help my friends work on their cars, becasue its always their fault, and when ever i work on mine all they do is stand around and watch.

good to hear that mechanic seemed to know the problem. I bet he would have charged you the $800 dollars once he relized all he needed to do was add some fuel
 

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Rob, maybe you should get that guy to sell his car.

He doesn't sound like he's up to the task of owning a Supra.

If a damn empty tank of gas could defeat him, god will have no mercy on him when something real actually happens. :biglaugh:
 

annoyingrob

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OneJoeZee said:
Rob, maybe you should get that guy to sell his car.

He doesn't sound like he's up to the task of owning a Supra.

If a damn empty tank of gas could defeat him, god will have no mercy on him when something real actually happens. :biglaugh:
I have two complete 5M-GEs waiting just in case ;)


I don't know, I just hate seeing my friends drive hondas and sunbirds.
 

Poodles

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did you at least fix the gas gauge for him while the tank was out? :rofl:

some people are completely retarded when it comes to cars, when most of us see it as being very simple they don't understand how the basics work...
 

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When I read the first part of thje story I was thinking , I hope he did not get him a supra!? If he does not really take care of his cars he may have a problem or 2.

Of the 3 supras in my family only 1 of the gas gauges work. Funny! So are you going to fix the gauge? :)
 

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I have had someone who filled there engine up with oil, literally.

It was level with the top of the rocker cover.

or the woman who complained about bad fuel consuption in her old Mini, turns out she had been using the choke as a rest for her handbag.
 

annoyingrob

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JMDigital said:
When I read the first part of thje story I was thinking , I hope he did not get him a supra!? If he does not really take care of his cars he may have a problem or 2.

Of the 3 supras in my family only 1 of the gas gauges work. Funny! So are you going to fix the gauge? :)

Haha. He means well. He WANTS to know how to fix his car, but he needs some guidance. I'm all for having my friend drive a Supra. Honestly, a 5M is a pretty reliable motor. (I neglected to mention, this is NOT a MKIII)

We're going to the junkyard on friday to get a new fuel level sender. Fortunately you can change it from the trunk, and not drop the tank.
 

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Ah, rob, you're a kind soul.

I would recommend you don't turn a single wrench when you're "helping" him work on his car. Just stand there and watch and tell him what he needs to do to fix the problem, and how to do it and why. Just being in there doing it will get him more confident at ripping stuff apart and putting it back together.

When you're a n00b trying to learn but working with guys who know what they're doing, in the time you spend trying to decide the best way to go about removing something, they're already in there doing it. If I read between the lines well, the guy wants your help, not for you to do it for him. Make him get his butt under the car and do the lifting. What he needs from an experienced guy like you is for you to say "ok, to take that off you need to undo that bolt, then remove that and that, then you're done. Oh, and whatever you do, just don't..." ect.

He needs confidence, confidence comes from experience, experience does not come from standing around watching. Showing someone to do something by doing it infront of them gets little to no results. Standing behind them and telling them how to do it while they actually do it will yeild far better results.

If he was under the car for 4 hours dropping the tank while you sipped coffee, i'm sure he would have had a better appreciation for the order of operations: Check the easy stuff, then work to the harder stuff.

Oh, and bring a chair ;)
 

annoyingrob

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Keros said:
Ah, rob, you're a kind soul.

I would recommend you don't turn a single wrench when you're "helping" him work on his car. Just stand there and watch and tell him what he needs to do to fix the problem, and how to do it and why. Just being in there doing it will get him more confident at ripping stuff apart and putting it back together.

When you're a n00b trying to learn but working with guys who know what they're doing, in the time you spend trying to decide the best way to go about removing something, they're already in there doing it. If I read between the lines well, the guy wants your help, not for you to do it for him. Make him get his butt under the car and do the lifting. What he needs from an experienced guy like you is for you to say "ok, to take that off you need to undo that bolt, then remove that and that, then you're done. Oh, and whatever you do, just don't..." ect.

He needs confidence, confidence comes from experience, experience does not come from standing around watching. Showing someone to do something by doing it infront of them gets little to no results. Standing behind them and telling them how to do it while they actually do it will yeild far better results.

If he was under the car for 4 hours dropping the tank while you sipped coffee, i'm sure he would have had a better appreciation for the order of operations: Check the easy stuff, then work to the harder stuff.

Oh, and bring a chair ;)

Sounds good. I think I'll do that next time.
 

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rob i've got to agree that it sounds like hes a real new penny with cars but i draw alot of similarities with my brother.

he doesnt know alot about his car but he knows alot more now than he did before. and him having a car he loves and respects (the dumb SOB just got done washing his car a few mins ago, with a hose and bucket, in 42 degree weather.....) is alot better than having a car thats really just another car.

take heart man, there are many in your position too.
 

annoyingrob

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Today we totally washed out the interior, and exterior, as well as installed a new wiper motor, wiper arms, and windshield trim.

And he actually helped me with it all. He's getting better. I kept telling him do this, or do that, and he went on his way, and figured it out himself.




And locking pivoting ratcheting wrenches are the best invention ever. That is all I have to say.