anyone have a emanage blue map 680cc/singleturbo or close to it

7Mboost

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I could really use a emanage blue base map for 680cc injectors. Or 720s would be close enough i could get this thing to idle and semi drive. That or any help tuning emanage blue.

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Rich

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as said on sf as well:
what ecu are you using? stock or blitz/mines/...?

Have you tried using the injector change setting?

what are the symptoms?

btw, an eman map based on a stock ecu is quite different then one based on a blitz ecu, take that into consideration when using someone else's map.
I also run the eman blue, but in combination with a blitz ecu.

And sharing the maps is easy, look for the .GSC files.
 

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Rich said:
as said on sf as well:
what ecu are you using? stock or blitz/mines/...?

Have you tried using the injector change setting?

what are the symptoms?

btw, an eman map based on a stock ecu is quite different then one based on a blitz ecu, take that into consideration when using someone else's map.
I also run the eman blue, but in combination with a blitz ecu.

And sharing the maps is easy, look for the .GSC files.

i was messing with it last night and think i finally figured it out, although my plugs are fouled out now. If i change the injector setting in the parameter setting box it should run just like it has 370s correct? then in the additional injector map i am adding injector duty cycle % and i just keep adding percent untill i reach the AFR i want? I wasn't understanding how to use it before.

I am on stock ecu BTW. cams t67 ect ect

once i get the plugs cleaned i am going to set everything back to 0 and change the injector setting so it says 370 to 680 that way it should idle fine.
 

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7Mboost said:
i was messing with it last night and think i finally figured it out, although my plugs are fouled out now. If i change the injector setting in the parameter setting box it should run just like it has 370s correct? then in the additional injector map i am adding injector duty cycle % and i just keep adding percent untill i reach the AFR i want? I wasn't understanding how to use it before.

I am on stock ecu BTW. cams t67 ect ect

once i get the plugs cleaned i am going to set everything back to 0 and change the injector setting so it says 370 to 680 that way it should idle fine.

yes, putting in 370 to 680 in the parameter settings and keeping all maps to zero should make it run like stock.

Then first use the 'airflow adjustment map' to get the desired a/f's, in this map you can also pull out fuel if needed.

Use the 'additional injection map' to compensate for boost levels beyond the stock map sensor. You will need the greddy sensor to read these higher boost levels though. This map will only add fuel, you can't take out fuel in this map.
Tip: On the x-axxis, start the scale a little under where the stock map sensor ends, that way you have the full 16 rows for detailed compensation beyond the stock map sensor.
 

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Rich said:
yes, putting in 370 to 680 in the parameter settings and keeping all maps to zero should make it run like stock.

So if i have the map set up like this and its still to rich 10 and below, i have something wrong. What could it be? injectors wired up wrong? something else with the emanage? anything i could test?
 

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foreverpsycotic said:
Are you sure your 680s flow 680cc?

eman does nothing more than apply a correction factor to the signal, so if stock is 370 and what you run now is 680 you put in both values and it calculates the correction factor of 0.544

max. correction the eman can handle is 150% bigger top of my head
 

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do you have the injector harness hooked up? When I had an emanage Ultimate i had issues where it ran rich when I had the injector harness hooked up.

680s on a stock ecu.. :aigo:
 

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7Mboost said:
So if i have the map set up like this and its still to rich 10 and below, i have something wrong. What could it be? injectors wired up wrong? something else with the emanage? anything i could test?

map sensor
you can check it's functioning with the eman; start up the 'real time display' and see if the pressure sensor input values react to throttle. It should vary between 2 - 4V roughly.

you can also mail me a log file of the engine idling and some runs; make sure to select:
rpm, throttle position, pressure sensor input (V), absolute pressure, total inj. duration (ms), total injector duty cycle.
I'll take a look at it and see if I can see anything unusual

also mail the .GSC file so I can check if you've set up things right.

you don't by any chance have a wideband hooked up to the eman do you?
 

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Rich said:
eman does nothing more than apply a correction factor to the signal, so if stock is 370 and what you run now is 680 you put in both values and it calculates the correction factor of 0.544

max. correction the eman can handle is 150% bigger top of my head
True, but some people have had 550cc injectors that actually flowed 720cc, and 680cc that have flowed 800cc. I'm trying to rule out injectors that aren't as advertised.
 

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foreverpsycotic said:
True, but some people have had 550cc injectors that actually flowed 720cc, and 680cc that have flowed 800cc. I'm trying to rule out injectors that aren't as advertised.

Ah ok, yes, good thinking.

@7Mboost, what brand injectors do you have?
 

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curious??? Do you guys mess with the timing when your tuning with the e-manage blue. I know you have to buy the extra harness to mess with the ignition.
 

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meet07 said:
curious??? Do you guys mess with the timing when your tuning with the e-manage blue. I know you have to buy the extra harness to mess with the ignition.

besides the ignition harness you need a little circuitry to keep the IGF signal happy, I haven't played with timing yet and it is only usefull on a dyno to see the results of the alterations.
 

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tissimo said:
do you have the injector harness hooked up? When I had an emanage Ultimate i had issues where it ran rich when I had the injector harness hooked up.

680s on a stock ecu.. :aigo:

yes i have the injector harness hooked up with it paired 1-4 2-5 3-6 striaght to the ecu.

Rich said:
map sensor
you can check it's functioning with the eman; start up the 'real time display' and see if the pressure sensor input values react to throttle. It should vary between 2 - 4V roughly.

you can also mail me a log file of the engine idling and some runs; make sure to select:
rpm, throttle position, pressure sensor input (V), absolute pressure, total inj. duration (ms), total injector duty cycle.
I'll take a look at it and see if I can see anything unusual

also mail the .GSC file so I can check if you've set up things right.

you don't by any chance have a wideband hooked up to the eman do you?

If i remember right the map sensor is reading 2.66 before i start it up, and i think it dropped down below 2 a few times.

wideband is an aem uego not hooked to the emanage.

I will get a file for you tommorrow.


Rich said:
Ah ok, yes, good thinking.

@7Mboost, what brand injectors do you have?

Denso 680cc they were new they were made for 84-85 rx7. low impedence, i am useing a 7m resistor pack also.
 

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You can hook up the aem uego to the greddy boost port and log the signal, it works very good. I have that same wideband.

I run 800cc sards on a blitz ecu with the eman, btw
 

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Sorry for thread jack...

I'm trying to tune my car right now with the e-man blue, and can't get it to connect up w/ my comp. When I click the icon it says it can't communicate with the main unit. I have everything hooked up correctly.

I'm thinking it has something to do with me being on XP, and it's wizard not installing the new hardware when ever I plug in the USB connection. The main units Active and Interaction lights come on when powered but I can't get it to communicate with my computer.

What am I doing wrong?
 

7Mboost

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So i unplugged the emanage today and the car runs better, very smooth, yet still very rich. I am going to check over the wiring right now but just wanted to let you know what i should be looking for if it runs smooth with the emanage unplugged.


fstlane88 said:
Sorry for thread jack...

I'm trying to tune my car right now with the e-man blue, and can't get it to connect up w/ my comp. When I click the icon it says it can't communicate with the main unit. I have everything hooked up correctly.

I'm thinking it has something to do with me being on XP, and it's wizard not installing the new hardware when ever I plug in the USB connection. The main units Active and Interaction lights come on when powered but I can't get it to communicate with my computer.

What am I doing wrong?


what cable/software are you useing?
 

fstlane88

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Greddy's support tool, and a generic serial to USB cable. I'm thinking from some searching I did on the yahoo group that the cable I'm using is my problem. I ordered one from Mohd's site, and will be installing the driver associated with it, so we'll see what happens. Apparently several other people are using it successfully with XP so I don't see the problem stemming from that.