Anybody want a Turbo A?

Poodles

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sorry, but I was unemployeed for a good 15 months (right after 9/11 was horrible here as AA's home is here and they layed off thousands of people)

I needed health care, and there is very good state funded health care, but our idiot govenor cut the budget of it down to next to nothing.

What do they not understand about NOT HAVING MONEY?

anyways, that's completely off topic, but health care costs in america are on the rise, and not everyone can afford it (thank god I can now), as a lot of employers don't even offer it now...

/end rant
 

TurboStreetCar

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garagefujimoto said:
Because your government won't even provide universal health care..never mind allow a foreign car that will steal business away from local businesses to be imported. Too late now anyway, it's sold.

but the car is already legal here, its not like trying to import a skyline or something that isnt already released in the USA.
 

flubyux2

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if i keep my black car forever, i can just take the license plate off it and the registration and plop it in a turbo A. like the man would be able to tell the difference... a black 89 toyota supra and a black 89 toyota supra. i win ;)

btw, if that car is legal to drive in canada, its automatically grandfathered in because the NHSTA and DOT state that canadas regulations and standards are so close to our own. if it passes canadas regulations, it automatically passes ours. not to mention, that car was probably built before Sept 1989 so its already exempt according to the regulations i posted on that other supra site. its legal, technically speaking.
 

drjonez

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flubyux2 said:
...btw, if that car is legal to drive in canada, its automatically grandfathered in because the NHSTA and DOT state that canadas regulations and standards are so close to our own. if it passes canadas regulations, it automatically passes ours. not to mention, that car was probably built before Sept 1989 so its already exempt according to the regulations i posted on that other supra site. its legal, technically speaking.

ummmmmmmmmmmmmm, no.
 

TurboStreetCar

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flubyux2 said:
if i keep my black car forever, i can just take the license plate off it and the registration and plop it in a turbo A. like the man would be able to tell the difference... a black 89 toyota supra and a black 89 toyota supra. i win ;)

untill the officer looks at the vin printed on the registration and compares it to the plate on the dash/doorjam
 

flubyux2

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when is the last time a cop ever verified the vin on your car to the vin on your registration? i personally have never had them do it on a traffic stop. they may be more strict in your area so i guess that would be something to consider for others.

and "ummmmmmmmmm" definitly yes. here is the info i posted on that other site that i mentioned in my previous post.

flubyux2;4474081 said:
my friend made a comment about being able to finally import a jza70 next year due to some strange 17 year statute of limitation on non-compliant vehicles. so that would lead me to beleive that i could import a vehicle made in 1989 THIS year... as in a Soarer. so i looked around some more and i found this info on the NHSTA site. it references the DOT docket information w/ specific section numbers and descriptions of what is eligible for importation and whats not as well as what identifies an eligible vehicle. there is a complete list of elegible vehicles as well as non-specific vehicles based on simple descriptions.

One basis for determining a motor vehicle eligible for importation is that it 1) is substantially similar to a motor vehicle of the same model year that was manufactured for sale in the United States and certified by its manufacturer as complying with all applicable FMVSS and 2) is capable of being readily altered to comply with all applicable FMVSS. See 49 U.S.C. § 30141(a)(1)(A). Where there is no substantially similar U.S.-certified motor vehicle of the same model year, a vehicle can only be determined eligible for importation if its safety features comply with, or are capable of being altered to comply, with all applicable FMVSS based on destructive test information or other evidence NHTSA decides is adequate. See 49 U.S.C. § 30141(a)(1)(B).

there are vehicles that are on a "vehicle eligibility list" and have an associated "eligibility number" for each vehicle, with regards to make/model/date of mfr. there are no real "desirable" Toyota's which already have a distinctive eligibility number. so, if we wanted to import a supra, soarer, corona, chaser, crown or whatever... we would have to use the "generic" elgibility number of VSA-80.

the description of eligible vehicles which fall under this number is as follows:
(a) All passenger cars less than 25 years old that were manufactured before September 1, 1989;
(b) All passenger cars manufactured on or after September 1, 1989, and before September 1, 1996, that, as originally manufactured, are equipped with an automatic restraint system that complies with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) No. 208;
(c) All passenger cars manufactured on or after September 1, 1996, and before September 1, 2002, that, as originally manufactured, are equipped with an automatic restraint system that complies with FMVSS No. 208, and that comply with FMVSS No. 214;
(d) All passenger cars manufactured on or after September 1, 2002, and before September 1, 2007, that, as originally manufactured, are equipped with an automatic restraint system that complies with FMVSS No. 208, and that comply with FMVSS Nos. 201, 214, 225, and 401.

Docket number NHSTA-2002-12937, available online
Docket number 96-114 not available online; http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/trd/#TIS for informatoin retreival

here's where i found most of the info; http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/ELIG010906.html

other links are available within for reading offical filings and petition requests.
 

Poodles

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street legal and passes smog too... dyno they put it on doesn't put enough load for the WG to open and dump through the DDP...
 

flubyux2

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adam is mostly right. the turbo A wont be EPA legal, ever. the only way to make the turbo A 100% legal to the DOT is to retrofit it w/ USDM parts so it meets the crash test requirements from the date of its manufacture. since that car is built in 88, it might still be able to receive the 3 metal vin tags from the pre89's. the 89+ switched to the stickers in the door jambs which arent as easy to fudge.