A/C Issue - No Power to Compressor/No Cold Air

crazysk8er1010

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My car has had no A/C for the past 4 years. There was no pressure in the system or any oil in the compressor before hand. I flushed all the lines. I replaced the drier, all the o-rings, expansion valve, and added 4.1 oz of mineral oil to the compressor. I ran a vacuum on it for 1hr and then let it sit for 30 min and it held full charge. I then charged it with 24oz of R12 freon and put in leak dye via A/C Manifold gauges through the low pressure side, and all throughout the A/C clutch never came on.

My current problem is that:
1) R12 A/C is not blowing cold air
2) There's no power to the compressor plug


Ive hooked up low and high side gauges and it currently reads:
@2000 RPM without the compressor engaged
Low side pressure: 70 psi
High side pressure: 70 psi
(which suggests that the A/C clutch is not operating)

I jumped the compressor (and it operates normally with the clutch engaged) to see how the pressures would change and they changed as follows:
Low side pressure: 0 to negative pressure
High side pressure: 70 psi (didn't move)
(this reading suggests there's a blockage somewhere on the line, but I'm ruling out the expansion valve because I just replaced it).

I also checked the Dual pressure port for continuity and its does. I even jumped the Dual pressure switch and the A/C compressor didn't engage, so it tells me that the problem isn't Low freon charge.

I can't seem to locate the problem of not getting cold air through the vents. Even if there was a leak (which is a must to get fixed) I should still temporarily feel cold A/C blowing through the vents.

The A/C Plug Connector has no voltage and neither does the AC Condenser Fan. I checked the fuses in the left kick panel, left engine compartment, right kick panel.
Can it be that both the A/C Magnetic Clutch Relay and A/C Condenser Fan relay are bad at once or something else that powers them like the A/C Amplifier? or the A/C Relay in front of the heater unit behind the gauge cluster?

I also felt the lines and traced them to the firewall. One line is cold to the touch from the A/C Compressor all the way to the firewall. The other line is hot coming from the A/C Compressor until it goes into the condenser and then no heat from the condenser out. The two lines at the drier are normal temperature. Can a clogged condenser be my issue?

Any ideas on what my next step should be?
 

crazysk8er1010

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hvyman;2006501 said:
You check the compressor relay?

Are you talking about the A/C Magnet Clutch relay underneath the left engine fuse box
or the A/C Relay (in front of the heater unit) behind the gauge cluster?

Would the A/C magnet clutch also kill power coming up the A/C Condenser fan plug as well? Because there wasn't any voltage on that line either.
 

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I would start with the a/c switch itself and trace power from there to where it stops whether that be the relay or broken wire etc.... As for your pressures either you have a leak or it was never fully charged. If it was an obstruction the discharge pressure would be higher.

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hvyman

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You wont get power to the compressor clutch if the magnetic clutch relay is not working.

also if the relay doesnt get energized by the switch which is the climate control then the compressor wouldnt get power either.

also if there is no power going to the relay on the switch side it wont work as well.
 

crazysk8er1010

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hvyman;2006511 said:
You wont get power to the compressor clutch if the magnetic clutch relay is not working.

also if the relay doesnt get energized by the switch which is the climate control then the compressor wouldnt get power either.

also if there is no power going to the relay on the switch side it wont work as well.

Ok, so I double checked the Magnetic Clutch Relay and it is getting power, so it must be something else thats not powering the A/C plug?
 

crazysk8er1010

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I just read in another thread to check for a code 51 with the A/C switch on and foot off the pedal. I did that but it didn't give me a code 51. It just read normal. So what does that suggest?
 

hvyman

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Could be a bad switch. You can test for continuty using the wiring diagram and pull the climate control off.
 
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That tells you the AC amp is not signaling ac, but you already knew that.

Basic question: Is the blower running and the controller temp display lit up? If it is, do you have 12V on the 10 amp A/C fuse? If so, then provide voltages on each of the 4 pins of the A/C magnet relay.
 

crazysk8er1010

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Hey guys,

So after much testing, it ended up being the A/C Amp. I replaced it and it did the trick. A/C is blowing cold again and low and high side pressures are reading normal.
Thanks again for the help!