80's all over again

[rumptis]

And I was trying so hard to forget the 80's and what happened to cars.

You guys might not be a fan of General Motors but this will affect all car companies.

http://omidr.typepad.com/torque/2007/04/general_motors_.html

 

[jmanbball]

Since the epa can now regulate the amount of CO2, I guess manufacturers going to have to turn to hybrids for performance, since the co2 limits will regulate the displacement, the amount of forced induction, and the rpms.

Sons of B!$@hes,

 

[drunk_medic]

Mandatory Environmentalist "told 'ya so" at the bottom of the article:

"It's also worth mentioning that this knee-jerk reaction of American automobile manufacturers is nonetheless a result of continued negligence in the area of fuel economy. GM might hold back with such claims since German and Japanese car makers may just have it for breakfast."

 

[ValgeKotkas]

Hmmm....why not save? Do you really need many high performance cars in everyday life? bahh.. who knows....

 

[Frozentide]

ENVIRONMENT FTW!!! YAY!!

 

[Figit090]

i think its lame that they claim RWD drivetrain is heavier...thats crap. maybe a bit heavier...but like the end of the page said...its not that much...

they just cant fess up that their engines suck when it comes to efficiency....plain and simple.

 

[Nick M]

What happend to car's in the 80's? You mean like the return of muscle cars and high performance? And the introduction of EFI, which gave you high horsepower and decent milage? Yeah that sucked.

 

[kwnate]

Oh thank god, now the icebergs won't melt and flood the world...

 

[Big Wang Bandit]

Icebergs!

 

[jmanbball]

What happend to car's in the 80's? You mean like the return of muscle cars and high performance? And the introduction of EFI, which gave you high horsepower and decent milage? Yeah that sucked.

I think he meant the mid-70's and early eightys

 

[PROJECT N00b]

lol. i dont think the supra would sink if an iceberg hit it...i think it would sink even if nothing hit it. lol. anyways, now i'm kinda happy the next supra might be a hybrid!

 

[flight doc89]

Since the epa can now regulate the amount of CO2, I guess manufacturers going to have to turn to hybrids for performance, since the co2 limits will regulate the displacement, the amount of forced induction, and the rpms.

http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/print_item.asp?NewsID=188

When you pool together all the combined energy it takes to drive and build a Toyota Prius, the flagship car of energy fanatics, it takes almost 50 percent more energy than a Hummer - the Prius’s arch nemesis.

 

[Figit090]

is that last quote true??

 

[flight doc89]

if the article is true, then yes. It's printed by Central Connecticut State University. Reading the article, since the hummer is expected to last 3x longer than a Prius, the Hummer also costs like 30 cents less per mile than a Prius. Just read the article It really deserves its own thread, but it fit nicely in this one

EDIT: When you boil it down, driving a Prius could decrease smog in cities, at the cost of a bigger "dead zone" around the refineries that smelt the nickel for a Prius' battery (granted Toyota isn't the only company buying the nickel)(the writer carefully left that out). however, that little bit of acid rain aside (I mean, it's only Ontario ) the Prius still costs 50% energy than a Hummer.

Through a study by CNW Marketing called “Dust to Dust,” the total combined energy is taken from all the electrical, fuel, transportation, materials (metal, plastic, etc) and hundreds of other factors over the expected lifetime of a vehicle.

EDIT2: i misread the article; the Hummer costs $1.30 less, not $.30 less per mile ove its lifetime

 

[Kai]

Does this mean *gasp* that americans might have to get used to driving cars that dont have stupid sized engines for their every day cars?! Oh NOES!

 

[Junior]

Does this mean *gasp* that americans might have to get used to driving cars that dont have stupid sized engines for their every day cars?! Oh NOES!

or maybe the brits should learn how to insulate their houses....

 

[MK3Brent]

Icebergs!

??

 

[Kai]

Er - they are insulated, most are made of brick, and have an outer and an inner wall - the newer ones are made of breezeblock - and again, have an inside and an outside wall....so there

 

[souprat]

^^go back to the uk and stay there. you can have my 14mpg DD when you pry it from my cold dead hands.:evil2: :evil2: :evil2:

 

[Kai]

Er, i am in the UK, fool

I just dont see the point of having a daily driver car - ie, a family 'sedan' with anything more than say a 4-cylinder, you're not taking it on the track, you're driving to work, the shops, kids to school etc...

Or do you like forking out money for fuel more often?