2JZ dirrect bolt On????

limequat

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supradan22 said:
Because Im currently desperate for a running supra just looking at my options

Nothing wrong with looking at a n/a 2JZ. With 1jz mounts it'll bolt right in, just use the W58. You then have all sorts of options for n/a-t. Possible VVTi too.
 

supradan22

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Unless you can find one in the junkyard the 6 speed transmission it self will cost you arround 3gs from what I have seen.

I thought the 1JZ mounts were the same as the pre 89 mounts??
 
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northsupra

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no you need the 89+ crossmember or something, and iirc reading somewhere a getrag 6 speed will fit with som hammer action :)
 

supra90turbo

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not hammer action. sawzall action. the shifter will sit in the flip up coin tray in the center console. not worthit IMO.
just so you can say "i have a 6speed"?
naw. i'm all set with that.

buy the 2JZGE, but its not "plug and play"
you will probably want to look into some type of aftermarket engine management, plus it will give you infinite room to grow.
then, it will bolt up to your w58, but you should look for an R154 in the meantime and also driftmotion.com sells a new 1jz->r154 bellhousing. and that will bolt the trans right up to the engine ***(i believe...)

go for it. some may give you shit, but for a reliable daily driver with 200+ hp, you cant beat a vvti 2jzge.

better than a 7mge....
 

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supradan22 said:
Unless you can find one in the junkyard the 6 speed transmission it self will cost you arround 3gs from what I have seen.

I thought the 1JZ mounts were the same as the pre 89 mounts??


rinkya.com, which is sort of a japanese version of ebay has them for around 52000 yen, thats much cheaper than three thousand american. my friend has ordered a few sets of wheels from this place, and the shipping can be estimated as a ballpark range of double the origional price, so if I am correct(not sure) you can get one for around 1500 american including shipping. the reason I want one is that I on five-speed's, the 5th gear is meant to save gas on the highway, and for a steady rate or speed, so I figured on a six speed, its the 6th gear that serves that purpose and one through five are meant for acceleration, and I wanted a wider range between the first and last gears. I think I can make some sort of adapter so the shifter comes through the right hole(or A shifter).
 

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supra90turbo said:
not hammer action. sawzall action. the shifter will sit in the flip up coin tray in the center console. not worthit IMO.
just so you can say "i have a 6speed"?
naw. i'm all set with that.

buy the 2JZGE, but its not "plug and play"
you will probably want to look into some type of aftermarket engine management, plus it will give you infinite room to grow.
then, it will bolt up to your w58, but you should look for an R154 in the meantime and also driftmotion.com sells a new 1jz->r154 bellhousing. and that will bolt the trans right up to the engine ***(i believe...)

go for it. some may give you shit, but for a reliable daily driver with 200+ hp, you cant beat a vvti 2jzge.

better than a 7mge....

damn straight
its atcually cheaper this way, to turbo an NA 2j it cost around 1200 + engine is around 700shipped, thats 1900 for a 2jzgte, rather than getting a 2jzgte engine for $2200+


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supraman2251 srry man but the getrag, is pretty much an r154 with the 3 gear split
to make 3rd and 4th the 4th to 5th and 5th to 6th.
they say the r154 is better for power than the getrag.
still might be fun to drive a 6 speed.:biglaugh:
 

Mr.SelfDestruct

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and what are the differences between an r154 and the w58? I'm n/a and I'm gonna go allmotor, so I'll need a tranny to take the power and i heard the w58 couldnt take too much.
 

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The R154 is basically stronger, that's the basic difference, lol. Stronger and bigger and heavier. The W58 can take about 350rwhp on a 7M before blowing IIRC, the R154... more... but both will break if you abuse them.

It's cheaper to use the W58, because you can get the correct bellhousing no problem. The R154 requires the 1JZ bellhousing.


To mount a 2JZ into the car you basically need:

- 1JZ engine brackets (stock 1JZ ones if you have a 1/89-92 car, Becauseican ones if you have an older car, unless you want to change the crossmember)
- Bellhousing (2JZ-GE bellhousing if using the W58, 1JZ-GTE bellhousing if using the R154)
- Flywheel (2JZ-GE flywheel if using W58, 1JZ-GTE flywheel if using the R154)
- Clutch (Any stock or aftermarket clutch for whichever tranny you use -- can use MA70 Turbo clutches if using an R154)


Then of course there's the engine management and wiring, which will need to be done by you or someone else who knows what they're doing. :)
 

SupraMario

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Jeff Lange said:
Then of course there's the engine management and wiring, which will need to be done by you or someone else who knows what they're doing. :)

yep thats were my delima comes in
i got the engine part down and tranny, but electrical, :nono:
 

supradan22

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Yeah how much do you think I could get the Wiring Harness and an ECU for cause I think I may goes this route has any 1 else done this before With the N/A 2jz??
 

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i doubt many people have, Dan.
but, being brutally honest, there's a reason why i haven't heard about it.

yet, i'm strangely intrigued by such an animal...



do it.
the growing room created by such a swap is more than any 7M could hope for. stock or modified.

i just want to hear a VVT-i 2JZ MK3, really.

so, i stick with my previous post.
do it.
 

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supra90turbo said:
i just want to hear a VVT-i 2JZ MK3, really.

Wait, what's this?
twincharged2jzvvti.jpg


BADASS!!! THAT'S what it is..

2JZ-GTE VVTi with big turbocharger, AND.. what's that belt-driven thing down there below the turbo? Supercharger? Who dat? Me dat.
I'd love to see that thing run.
 

SupraMario

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drunk_medic said:
Wait, what's this?
twincharged2jzvvti.jpg


BADASS!!! THAT'S what it is..

2JZ-GTE VVTi with big turbocharger, AND.. what's that belt-driven thing down there below the turbo? Supercharger? Who dat? Me dat.
I'd love to see that thing run.

well guys i was saving this for when it was done, but as see that drunk hacked into my comp and stole the pic.
lol
that is badass. that looks like its going to push 700 easy untuned.