whatever you say man im not butchering this guys thread anymore..
my statements still stand
along with the do what the f**k you want statement
my statements still stand
along with the do what the f**k you want statement
1JZ Swap? Worth it?
- Thread starter mkIIIforeverdrifting
- Start date
Engine ( harness+ ECU)...........$2,100.00
Motor Mounts..........................$180.00
Flywheel................................$310.00
Clutch Kit...............................$435.00
1JZ Bellhousing.......................$318.00
2.5" Intercooler Pipes..............$100.00
550cc Inj. and Fuel Rail...........$100.00
Oil Pan and extras..................$550.00
Fuel Pump 255 LPH ................$110.00
T4 Exhaust Manifold...............$160.00
1JZ Flywheel Bolts..................$45.00
Power Steering Hose...............$90.00
AFPR $150.00
this all comes to around $4500 and i'm still not done. i need a bunch of misc items. this is for a 2JZ....lots of money is needed for this swap. i kinda wish i would've done a 1jz or built my 7M...coulda been done by now with my 7M, and making 500 hp
Motor Mounts..........................$180.00
Flywheel................................$310.00
Clutch Kit...............................$435.00
1JZ Bellhousing.......................$318.00
2.5" Intercooler Pipes..............$100.00
550cc Inj. and Fuel Rail...........$100.00
Oil Pan and extras..................$550.00
Fuel Pump 255 LPH ................$110.00
T4 Exhaust Manifold...............$160.00
1JZ Flywheel Bolts..................$45.00
Power Steering Hose...............$90.00
AFPR $150.00
this all comes to around $4500 and i'm still not done. i need a bunch of misc items. this is for a 2JZ....lots of money is needed for this swap. i kinda wish i would've done a 1jz or built my 7M...coulda been done by now with my 7M, and making 500 hp
Ric said:
Capable of 700... But do you have 700 or the supporting mods to make 700 yet?
I can take a 1J and slap a GT47 on it and say I now have an engine capable of way more hp than it would have cost to swap a 2J. Keep apples to apples. There really is no disputing the fact that a 2J will make more power all things being equal.
Let us know when you get your GT4088 on the dyno. I'm interested to see your results. From your posts, it's sounds like a nice setup but the butt dyno is all relative.
I have the supporting mods sans transmissionOneJoeZee said:
Its going on the dyno as soon as i get my driveshaft in next week. Took me a while to find another stocker. In the first week of the new setup i broke a front u-joint.
crazysupra2JZ said:
i can find a 2JZ engine set for 1600 so 1900 shipped prolly
just gotta look and wait.
Aristo sets are easily under 2k, you just have to find the correct retailer. JHOT usually has em, and they are very good motors.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-...QQcategoryZ33615QQitemZ110101261047QQtcZphoto
$1800 plus shipping. They only come auto.
Ive bought two motors from Jhot so far (1jz), and installed 2 more from them. All rock solid.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-...QQcategoryZ33615QQitemZ110101261047QQtcZphoto
$1800 plus shipping. They only come auto.
Ive bought two motors from Jhot so far (1jz), and installed 2 more from them. All rock solid.
looks clean. i got my aristo set from japaneseengineimport. fast shipping great communication. very satisfied with their services. i picked up the engine 2 days earlier than i was told i could.
good stuff and i 2nd JHOT thats where i got mine from and it is solid except a blown turbo oil seal....owell i was gonna use it as an excuse to go single but ehhh i dont want to single it when im going 2J. so i'll get another set of stock twins for 100 bucks and get ready for the 2J
Also might have been mentioned, but for what its worth, make sure you open the oil cap, and take a nice look inside to make sure there isn't any sludgy buildup from shit oil use etc.... and also request for a Compression Readout from all the cylinders.:evildeal:
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okay ppl got a lil off topic, and what i'm looking for and i've looked through the links and have looked through the forums and can't seem to get a straight answer from them. What I'm looking for at this point is a no bs answer, will the 1jz Motor w/
All required Cables
Automatic transmission
Uncut Wiring Harness Distributor
Complete Intake Manifold
Alternator
ECU
A/C
Power Steering Pump
All Brackets and Sensors
Intecooler
bolt straight in and fire up or do i need a bunch of additional parts. I'm hoping for a yes but if not please give a straight answer list of what misc parts I need to look for to get it up and running. Thanks in advance. As mentioned b4 I just don't have the time to go through every individual forum.
All required Cables
Automatic transmission
Uncut Wiring Harness Distributor
Complete Intake Manifold
Alternator
ECU
A/C
Power Steering Pump
All Brackets and Sensors
Intecooler
bolt straight in and fire up or do i need a bunch of additional parts. I'm hoping for a yes but if not please give a straight answer list of what misc parts I need to look for to get it up and running. Thanks in advance. As mentioned b4 I just don't have the time to go through every individual forum.
Ric said:
I have only seen one or two 1J dynos that shows the same torque curve as a 2J. The 1J makes hp in the upper rpm range, but the torque starts to fall off fast. That is why I want to see these "so called" 700 and 800 hp dynos from "the boys" in South Florida. I am betting there is a 25% to 30% hp to torque ratio difference. The 2J is much closer to a 1:1 match. Torque wins races, no one can argue that.
And yes, I own a 1J and I don't have a single eBay part going on my swap. So don't assume the entire 1J community is using crap parts. That is a rather arrogant assumption on your part and deserving of an apology to the community.
Greddy Manifold
Greddy Type-R Wastegate
Garret GT40
Crower Cams
HKS BOV
Blah Blah Blah
csnow said:
Sure someone can argue that torque wins races... Way too many variables in races to make that statement.
I've beaten many cars that have more torque than me. I'm not really in the mood to delve too far into that arguement though.
and 2Js aren't really all that close to 1:1. Maybe with stock twins or small/mid singles. More torque than a 1J but it's not like a 700hp 2J makes 700ft/lbs. That would take more displacement.
You are right, as the HP increases on both the 1J and 2J, the torque starts to drop. I was implying that the 2J was closer to a 1:1 than a 1J. I will still argue that torque whens races, not horsepower. A modded Supra lined up next to a properly modded 5.0, Vega, or Grand National will get stomped at the track. The highway....well, thats a different story.
But to each his own....
Now, back to the original poster, a 1J, 2J, or a 1.5J is money well spent on a MKIII. Good luck on your swap.
But to each his own....
Now, back to the original poster, a 1J, 2J, or a 1.5J is money well spent on a MKIII. Good luck on your swap.
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csnow said:
I don't recall saying anyone had ebay parts, or crap parts for that matter, so if you took it that way and were referring to me i do apologize for the miscommunication, and however for the fact I don't have the time at moment to see if the 1jz will work or not so i had to alter my order to just 7mgte a slight upgrade from what i had, but not what i wanted, guess I'll just have to wait now and go all out and throw in the 2jz later on down the road. Though I won't be building it to 700hp anyways for I'm setting my supra up for drifting anyways so have a super massive powerhouse is not entirely necissary. Though if any more ppl can verify w/ the parts listed in my previous post that come w/ the engine itself and tell me if that will do it and no additional parts are needed then I may wind up w/ a 1jz after all. I have till 9pm/central time to decide so I beg of yall, and it may be my fault for how i worded the thread, no more discussion of which engine is better and answer the one question I have truly yet get answered, will this engine be a complete swap or are there missing pieces to the puzzle i'm missing to get the old lady purring again.
No, it wasn't you. It was RIC that stated that the reason 1J's were not putting up good numbers because people were using cheap parts.
You are missing a 2J powering steering hose and throttle cable. There is no distributor unless you are using 2JZGE. You need an ignitor. You will need a 2J water pump and clutch fan unless your swap has the complete hydrofan kit.
You are missing a 2J powering steering hose and throttle cable. There is no distributor unless you are using 2JZGE. You need an ignitor. You will need a 2J water pump and clutch fan unless your swap has the complete hydrofan kit.
csnow said:
Thanks for elaborating. I was sure that's what you were getting at and I agree on most all points but I was trying to fish it out of you, you know?
I still wouldn't bet on the outcome of any given race based on just numbers though. Especially when talking about something controlled by humans, who are extremely fallible by nature.
if you plan on drifting a 1jz would likely be better suited than a 2jz and also less expensive since they come with the 5 speed and bell housing if u get a clip. I say the 1jz would be better due to its higher rev potential. If you just check out what the D1 guys are driving there are more 1jz than 2jzs. Formula D only has a 2jz so i guess there is your counter arguement.
~scott
~scott