1jz or 2jz????

[AZN MK3]

now ok i've been doing a lot of research and im finding out that ppl are using the 2jz motor more than the 1jz... now which one is best for my car... and if i decide to go with the 2jz what tranny can i use for my car... because i know that the 6spd tranny wont fit on the mk3's.... now im really stumped... and i dont know where to go with my car... so if you guys can please help that'll be great...

 

[BorHor]

ummmm r-154 with 1j bell housing. but.. I think the 6 speed will fit with a bit of banging in the tranny tunnel.

 

[suprahero]

I'm thinking that you didnt' search as much as you're letting on. There's no way that more people are using 2jz's. There's only a handful that I know of that have went 2jz. Look in the build up section for aBobiseverywhere. Hold on and I'll find you the link..........
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29567

 

[OneJoeZee]

the engine that's best for your car is the one that you've chosen after doing research about what you want to do with your car and how much you want to spend.

 

[drunk_medic]

Actually, I believe it was Stenno who noted that there is not too much sledgehammer banging on the transmission tunnel involved in fitting the 2JZ 6-speed manual tranny in the MkIII chassis. The custom parts are the driveshaft and shortening [cut/re-weld] of the shift bracket and rod going to the shifter.
If you go 2JZ, the most viable trannies to use are the R154 or V160 for more powerful builds, A340E [the one from the 2JZ auto, and for a mild amount of power unless race rebuilding the auto], and W58 [with a stronger clutch, and even then only for a mild power build].
You could use the A342 from a 1JZ, but why?

 

[AZN MK3]

well where would u suggest i should buy my engine from because i've heard that tigerjapanese is bad... and password jdm doesnt sell any toyota engines... and im not lookin to spend alot on the engine alone...because i've seen on on tigerjapanese but like i said ppl have been saying that its a bad place to buy an engine from...

 

[suprahero]

The ONLY place I would buy one from is www.driftmotion.com , they are very cool people and as honest as they come. A whole clip is $2600.00, but that's alot better than buying just the engine. If you deal with Driftmotion, you won't be dissappointed, but if you don't deal with them, then I don't want to hear any crying later when your car isn't running..............

 

[AZN MK3]

The ONLY place I would buy one from is www.driftmotion.com , they are very cool people and as honest as they come. A whole clip is $2600.00, but that's alot better than buying just the engine. If you deal with Driftmotion, you won't be dissappointed, but if you don't deal with them, then I don't want to hear any crying later when your car isn't running..............

well whats the difference in buying the soarer front clip as oppose to buying the one for the supra??? and is the soarer front clip harder to do???

 

[suprahero]

I don't know anything about a soarer. I bought my clip from Driftmotion and it's a supra clip. All I have to do is take it out of one supra and install it in my supra along with my newly wired wiring harness. You will have to contact www.driftmotion.com and they will answer anything you want to know about a soarer or 1jz swap. Good luck.

 

[AZN MK3]

I don't know anything about a soarer. I bought my clip from Driftmotion and it's a supra clip. All I have to do is take it out of one supra and install it in my supra along with my newly wired wiring harness. You will have to contact www.driftmotion.com and they will answer anything you want to know about a soarer or 1jz swap. Good luck.

iite thanks man....

 

[suprahero]

You're welcome, but i don't know what iite means...................:dunno:

 

[thesandymancan]

You're welcome, but i don't know what iite means...................:dunno:

i think its "alright", only in that "i'm attempting to be gangster" form of speaking. :biglaugh:

 

[bobiseverywhere]

well whats the difference in buying the soarer front clip as oppose to buying the one for the supra??? and is the soarer front clip harder to do???

If you buy a soarer Clip The Wiring is completly different. It requires allot more work to get that correct. The Soarer is a Front Sump for the oil pan and you will need to change that to a Mid Sump so it will fit in your Supra. I believe there are other things that need to be changed as well.

It can be done and people do it. It's just makes life allot more simple to go with one from a Supra if you are not Super experienced with the soarer

 

[AZN MK3]

If you buy a soarer Clip The Wiring is completly different. It requires allot more work to get that correct. The Soarer is a Front Sump for the oil pan and you will need to change that to a Mid Sump so it will fit in your Supra. I believe there are other things that need to be changed as well.

It can be done and people do it. It's just makes life allot more simple to go with one from a Supra if you are not Super experienced with the soarer

ok.... thanks

 

[RacerXJ220]

Soarer 1JZ's are for MK2's

If you can't decide if you want to go 1jz or 2jz, go 1.5jz

 

[honestabe]

The Soarer clips are also automatics, FYI. And dropping in a 1JZ is a lot easier than a 2JZ, especially one out of a RHD Supra because it was designed to fit in our car. The hardest part is the lengthening of the wiring harness 2 1/2 feet. But if you have the cash ($10,000-13,000), get a 2JZ. Just my opinion. And yes, I have a 1JZ, but I would have loved to have a 2JZ.

 

[bobiseverywhere]

there are new tricks now that people have figured out so that you do not have to legnthen the main engine harness and still have it reach. If you check out my build thread there is info on it in there.

as far as easy of install goes the 1J is a breeze. This was my first engine pull/swap/and install. it went pretty well for me, plus i did it on my own. The 2J takes allot more customization to get things done right.

The 1.5JZ is a good alternative also with the 1JZ Head and a 2JZ Block

 

[suprahero]

as far as easy of install goes the 1J is a breeze.

Now you're just bragging...............:biglaugh:

I hope mine goes as well as yourd did Josh. As soon as I get my stuff from Aaron, I can get started. I have my new head installed, but I need the wiring harness to really get started on the rest of it. I can't hardly wait to get everything together and actually start working on the car. Wish me luck.

 

[Boost Lee]

^Wishing you tons-o-luck, Jay.

AZN MK3 - 1JZ's are much more frequent in MA70's than 2JZ's.

I think everything is dependant upon how much studying you've done on your JZ series motors & how deep your pockets are...and hope that you've got plenty of patience because this is something that can't be rushed.

 

[Boss302]

The 1.5JZ is a good alternative also with the 1JZ Head and a 2JZ Block

where does a 1.5jz come out of never heard of that motor:icon_conf ???