1j vs 7m

[Mk3Les]

hahah no im not suggesting everyone with a tough 7m throw down a challenge but someone who has a 7m with similar mods to the 1jz that at least looks after it and has it tuned.Then of course do it in a controlled environment, and it would make for a great comparisson.


Im willing to use my 1jz supra in aus and video it, if someone else over here wants to give me a run with a decent 7m.........i own both but i cant drive both.:biglaugh:

I'll do it
What have you had done to the 1j?

 

[wiseco7mgt]

Hi les, its stock. Only has k@n and 3" mandrel exhaust ,255 walbro (its my daily)and ill set the boost to 14 psi. That sound like a fair test?
Sounds like fun either way........

 

[wiseco7mgt]

If I get up that way I'll drop by and say hi

Sweeeeeeeeet!

 

[Mk3Les]

Hi les, its stock. Only has k@n and 3" mandrel exhaust ,255 walbro (its my daily)and ill set the boost to 14 psi. That sound like a fair test?
Sounds like fun either way........

Mate that sounds great
I'm also at 14psi but I've got a "turbo A" ct26, 550's, SAFC-2, front mount and a 3 inch exhaust.
We should also get Dan to join the fun.

 

[wolf31685]

lol you guys are funny as hell didn't realize i would start a war like this all 7ms welcome ima eat you guys nah j/k no i'm really jokin i gotta a slow 1j. but seriously id'e like to run a healthy 7m wit similar mods

 

[wiseco7mgt]

lol you guys are funny as hell didn't realize i would start a war like this all 7ms welcome ima eat you guys nah j/k no i'm really jokin i gotta a slow 1j. but seriously id'e like to run a healthy 7m wit similar mods

Actually i think its great, its definatly not a war. ive wanted to try and get a close comparisson test for while to see the differences in both motors realtime.Its very hard to get a proper side by side run that doesnt have one car advantaged over the other.

 

[wiseco7mgt]

hey les im a little concerned about you running 550's, upgraded ct 26, and im guessing a lexus afm? you should have at least 50 hp on a stock 1jz.
Should still be close.

 

[robhojy]

well i own a 1jz jza70 manual and a 7mgte manual, i prefer the 7m probably becuase of the torque, you know your in a 3 litre when you drive it,

not biased at all, but the 7m does seem like the daddy motor

 

[IJ.]

Sweeeeeeeeet!

I really enjoy roads trips so don't be surprised if it happens

 

[FIL]

Speaking of drags.... Here's a link to sf.com.au's A70 drag racing results page...

http://www.supraforums.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=18424

you'll note that the number 1 time goes to a 2jz, 2 and 3 go to (fairly wild) 7m's and 4th is a 1jz.... the results so far are a pretty even mix of 1jz's and 7m's, with no real patterns developing...

as much as i would dearly love to say that the 1jz is a far superior motor and kicks the 7m's ass.... i can't say it based on those results... and i can't really go the other way either, the quickest 7m and 1jz are only 0.23 seconds apart, not really enough to say either engine has a distinct advantage...

 

[Wills7MGTE]

If his sparkplug was loose couldn't that have caused the cylinder not to fire, and doesn't a misfire sometimes cause rod knock to happen? IDK I know of a v8 that didn't fire a few times in it's number 5 cylinder and it ended up dropping parts into the pan.

 

[turbo87targa]

Speaking of drags.... Here's a link to sf.com.au's A70 drag racing results page...

http://www.supraforums.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=18424

you'll note that the number 1 time goes to a 2jz, 2 and 3 go to (fairly wild) 7m's and 4th is a 1jz.... the results so far are a pretty even mix of 1jz's and 7m's, with no real patterns developing...

as much as i would dearly love to say that the 1jz is a far superior motor and kicks the 7m's ass.... i can't say it based on those results... and i can't really go the other way either, the quickest 7m and 1jz are only 0.23 seconds apart, not really enough to say either engine has a distinct advantage...

funiest thing is none of us argue about this with the 2j guys lol. They just win no matter what

 

[Cycoclown]

7m or 1jz, doesnt matter me!

its a supra!

 

[Mk3Les]

hey les im a little concerned about you running 550's, upgraded ct 26, and im guessing a lexus afm? you should have at least 50 hp on a stock 1jz.
Should still be close.

Yeah but I drive like a poof so it should be close.
:evil2:

 

[FIL]

funiest thing is none of us argue about this with the 2j guys lol. They just win no matter what

haha... so true...

at the end of the day, all 3 are pretty decent motors...

i've got a 1jz and there are times i wish toyota had delivered it with a single ct26 hanging off the side instead of that d*mned twin turbo setup...

 

[Mk3Les]

Speaking of drags.... Here's a link to sf.com.au's A70 drag racing results page...

http://www.supraforums.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=18424

you'll note that the number 1 time goes to a 2jz, 2 and 3 go to (fairly wild) 7m's and 4th is a 1jz.... the results so far are a pretty even mix of 1jz's and 7m's, with no real patterns developing...

as much as i would dearly love to say that the 1jz is a far superior motor and kicks the 7m's ass.... i can't say it based on those results... and i can't really go the other way either, the quickest 7m and 1jz are only 0.23 seconds apart, not really enough to say either engine has a distinct advantage...

I was at the drags the same night Steve ran this time

18. - Steve aka 'supra steve'
MA70 Manual (1JZ-GTE)
13.88 @ 164 KPH (102 MPH)
2.08
Willowbank Raceway, QLD.

I didnt run him but I ran a 13.98 with a sorry 2.376 60ft. I dont know what mods he has done but yeah your right there really isnt much between them.

 

[Poodles]

Stock for stock, 1J wins.

Once mods come into play, it's anyone's game, but I haven't seen 4 digit numbers from a 1J yet...

 

[wolf31685]

If his sparkplug was loose couldn't that have caused the cylinder not to fire, and doesn't a misfire sometimes cause rod knock to happen? IDK I know of a v8 that didn't fire a few times in it's number 5 cylinder and it ended up dropping parts into the pan.

yea after the first race we figured out it was running on 5cylinders he plugged it back in and was like lets go so i said ok he kept up on the second race but it still wasn't enough

 

[queenskid926]

yea i told both of yall dez car the second race really suprised me, That was probrably the fastest his car ever moved lol. Normally when dez race his supra he always lose by like 5-6 cars no matter what hes racing cause his never run's rite. But that nite for that one race it was pretty good,






then it blew.

yea after the first race we figured out it was running on 5cylinders he plugged it back in and was like lets go so i said ok he kept up on the second race but it still wasn't enough