1000 hp build write up

turbodriz

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Guys.... who nitrides cranks? When tony runs 10.2 he is at 1,000hp? Is 11mm lift interference if the timing belt breaks? I thought that one of the problems with our motor was the space between cylinders. I thought it was hard to get a good seal from the headgasket at the boost levels required to make this type of power? Our is there a cure?
 
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MrWOT

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Fill the deck, machine the head for external cooling and tap the freeze plugs and run water manifolds straight through the freeze plugs. That will shore up a number of weak areas.
 
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turbodriz said:
Guys.... who nitrides cranks? When tony runs 10.2 he is at 1,000hp? Is 11mm lift interference if the timing belt breaks? I thought that one of the problems with our motor was the space between cylinders. I thought it was hard to get a good seal from the headgasket at the boost levels required to make this type of power? Our is there a cure?

To run his 10.2, he was at 800RWHP. He had stock cams too. (I assume you speak of Tony's cams)

Interesting read.

Duane
 

IJ.

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If someone asked me to spec a 1000hp 7M first thing I'd do would be ask to see some bank statements and wage slips so I could be sure they're NOT a dreamer and wasting my time..... :nono:
 
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IJ. said:
If someone asked me to spec a 1000hp 7M first thing I'd do would be ask to see some bank statements and wage slips so I could be sure they're NOT a dreamer and wasting my time..... :nono:


LOL Ian

My engine is built for 1000RWHP or I will see for sure in a few months :biglaugh:
 

drjonez

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no mention of differences in blocks/heads.

get '90+ stuff- the newer blocks have more reinforcement, the newer heads have less obstruction in the intake ports.

(see mkiiitech.com for all of that)
 

suprarich

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turbodriz said:
Guys.... who nitrides cranks? When tony runs 10.2 he is at 1,000hp? Is 11mm lift interference if the timing belt breaks? I thought that one of the problems with our motor was the space between cylinders. I thought it was hard to get a good seal from the headgasket at the boost levels required to make this type of power? Our is there a cure?

Most any metal treatment facility does nitriding, or you can send the crank to me. I think Tony is on a gm auto now. An 11 mm cam "can" be interference depending on the dome of the piston or if the seats where raised or not during the head work. Each application of a large cam is different.

A seasoned block that has had no prior work and is still straight is getting hard to find. A new block will be a late model block and come with a new late model crank. Two birds with one stone. IJ can tell you why it is a good idea to start with a new head. Straight, true, and has had no prior work done to it.

Gary, in Malta, is currenty running over 1300 hp on a 7m with less work into the block than I had written.

With proper prep work and a good tune, there is no reason that 45 -50 psi will not seal on a 7m.

For intermitent use 1000 hp, any aluminum radiator and electric fan set up will be enough.

I don't think that anyone has tested the r154 to this level. How long it would last would depend on how hard you abused it, what kind of condition it was in before hand, and what style of driving you plan on using your 1000hp.

Ask Duane how much it will cost to do a reliable r154 and clutch set up. You may have less money in a GM th350/400 swap.
 

Rennat

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I priced out a built 2jz, and i dont know how many of you have looked at prices for a 2jz... but for the 7m, there nearly cut in half. FFIM for a 2jz is almost 2,000... and its even a full CUSTOM, its a replacement top half..

A FFIM could be had for around 800tops i would say, and it uses the same style of the stock bottom half...

At least in my mind, the $$$$$ to HP ratio is better on a 7m, then on a 2jz... but it all depends on how much money you want to spend...

Just my .02 Cents...
 
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suprarich said:
I don't think that anyone has tested the r154 to this level. How long it would last would depend on how hard you abused it, what kind of condition it was in before hand, and what style of driving you plan on using your 1000hp.

I will let you know once the track opens :biglaugh:

suprarich said:
Ask Duane how much it will cost to do a reliable r154 and clutch set up. You may have less money in a GM th350/400 swap.

R154 I have has held so far but will see what happens this coming year. Cost? Rebuild the R154.can't remember cost and clutch set-up...well that is pricey. Having an auto is an option but manual is more fun trying to control down the track :biglaugh:

Duane
 

AJ'S 88NA

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suprarich said:
I don't think that anyone has tested the r154 to this level. How long it would last would depend on how hard you abused it, what kind of condition it was in before hand, and what style of driving you plan on using your 1000hp.

I know what style driving I'd do with a 1000hp.:naughty:

I think you have a hard time keeping most drivetrain components, well, driveable.
 

gilberjj

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whats with all this 1000 hp in blasts or sustained???? with 1000 hp, you'll be doing WAY to fast for any sane person in less then 10 seconds. It takes a long stretch to stay in a 1000 hp car for any prolonged period. And at the stock redline, my car will only do 181. so with a higher redline, 200 is attainable, but even then. no matter the top speed, you will get there FAST.
 

turbodriz

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alright, so I'll take the blame. I'm the one. This is how i'll live it. When u and I, anybody turns on the computer and looks for action its a 2jz. A.....2jz. I have now an 87 supra with an 7m. If I want a 2jz I'll buy a93 supra. I just feel that at this point of time it's time for the 7m to shine. This is not a thread about 2j vs. 7m or even 1j at that matter. This is a thread about bring your car and every that was originally in it because that is what most mk4 owner's do. They don't swap a 7m into a mk4 t0 make power! They brought what orginally came in the car and I just feel that we should do the same. I know in so many was we are on the down side of things(technology) but most 7m owner's have dedication. What I want is a 2j eater in a mk3 frame no shortcuts. There are members that have proven that it can be done. WE will always conquer what we thing to be a barrier! Now important info please! only info that may lead me and others to that big build. thanku. TURBODRIZ.
 

Supraholics

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^^^^ you can say all you want, but things are not going to change until people STOP being cheap!!! That's the only reason MKIIIs are viewed the way they are. I try, everytime I can, to direct people AWAY from cheapness and shortcuts...I take no shortcuts and I think my car can back me up!

Is not a matter of 2J better then 7M or viseversa, not a matter of MKIII is older then a MKIV...is a matter of the owners...

1000hp doesn't come cheap either way, 2JZ or 7M, and at that power output is pretty much all the same. Why? Because once you open them up...all bets are on the table.

Goto GTEpowered.com and confirm it yourself! We have a couple of 7M members that are REALLY close to 1000hp and have one that's over 1300+ hp on a STOCK crank even. Go check their mods, it will AMAZE you!

so the moral of the story is...STOP BEING CHEAP!!! :D
 

Quin

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EDIT: Damn it, this is why you shouldn't open windows and leave them open for hours and then post without refreshing. lol
 

bfr1992t

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This to me is not a *defacto standard* build sheet for a 1000hp 7M.
A lot of the stuff on the list is not needed or overdone. It might be the way *you* would build one, but not what's required.
 

Supraholics

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^^^ can you run 20psi on 93 pump gas on stock compression as opposed to being reliable??? Same thing here. Why don't you list how you would build it? That would be helpful.