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It's got my mouth watering :drool:

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GrimJack

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Until they take care of the reliability problems, you cannot use a Corvette as a daily driver. Brand new, right off the lot, they still spend at least 50% of their life at the dealer, getting something fixed. And if you think this is the usual thing for a 'supercar', try buying a Porsche, and then tell me how much maintenance it needs.
 

Poodles

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sorry Grim, but I gotta disagree...

The C5 and the C6 have good track records for reliability from everyone I've talked to...

Not sure on something this balls to the wall though...

Not a big fan of the new ZR1. There is only one ZR1 in my mind, and it was DOHC...
 

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Poodles;1013891 said:
sorry Grim, but I gotta disagree...

The C5 and the C6 have good track records for reliability from everyone I've talked to...

Not sure on something this balls to the wall though...

Not a big fan of the new ZR1. There is only one ZR1 in my mind, and it was DOHC...
Maybe they only send the shitty ones to Canada?

I've got 2 friends with C5s. One of them didn't make it a block from the dealership on the day he picked it up. It's been in and out of the shop ever since. He got so annoyed with the CEL being on all the time that he put a black sticker over it. The other one traded his in for a Ford Explorer after 2 years because every Sunday the Explorer starts and drives to the golf course without any problems.

The guy I know with the C6 has better luck, but not by much. It's still spent a lot of time at the dealer - a lot more than it should, that's for sure. I just bought a Honda Odyssey for my wife a few months back. How much time has it spent at the dealership? NOTHING. Not a single minute, it's been trouble free since the day we picked it up. That is how I expect a new car to behave.
 

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GrimJack;1014193 said:
Maybe they only send the shitty ones to Canada?

I've got 2 friends with C5s. One of them didn't make it a block from the dealership on the day he picked it up. It's been in and out of the shop ever since. He got so annoyed with the CEL being on all the time that he put a black sticker over it. The other one traded his in for a Ford Explorer after 2 years because every Sunday the Explorer starts and drives to the golf course without any problems.

The guy I know with the C6 has better luck, but not by much. It's still spent a lot of time at the dealer - a lot more than it should, that's for sure. I just bought a Honda Odyssey for my wife a few months back. How much time has it spent at the dealership? NOTHING. Not a single minute, it's been trouble free since the day we picked it up. That is how I expect a new car to behave.

Sorry, but I don't agree. My uncle had a C5 since new(2000) and it never had any problems. It had about 100,000 km on it before it was totalled last fall. It was replaced with an 07 Z06 during the winter. It gets driven constantly and already has 15,000 km. It only goes to the dealer for oil changes. There are a few problems with the Z06 (valve springs, etc.) but overall it is a solid car.

The track record for reliability of Corvettes is exceptional from everyone I know who owns one. I would not hesitate to buy one to DD if I wanted a 2 seat sports car for that job.
 

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Guys, the fact that there are nice, reliable ones out there does not eliminate the fact that there are PITA ones.

If you are lucky, you will certainly have a good experience. The same goes for winning the lottery, or winning big in Vegas, although the odds distribution had better be a lot more favorable for the Corvette owners.

My point is, there is a measurable, significant chance that you will get the lemon that made it through their quality inspection process. That plain sucks. If I were willing to accept that, I wouldn't be driving a Toyota.
 

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There are PITA lemons from every manufacturer, Toyota included. I have never spoken with a single Vette owner who had major problems without causing it themselves. It is also misleading to say that they are always in the dealer, since many Vette owners rarely do their own maintenance. That means they send their cars to the shop for the simplest things. If we as a community took our Supra's to the shop every time we threw a code, we might get a bad rep too.

In a few years I plan to put my money where my mouth is. I've already started looking for the C5 that will replace my Supra in a few years. With any luck I might get the Vette and keep the Supra...
 

NAiL05

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The c5z is a pretty nice reliable car. My friend has one...Rags on it quite often and it still hasnt quit on him. I wouldnt mind one as he has let me drive it. I love it though its so easy to drive. Give me an 01 in black (as I recall thats when the 405hp ones came out instead of the older 385) and I will call it a day.
 

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How about I quote directly from the 2007 lemon-aide car buying guide.
Corvette
Rating: Average (1994-2006); Not Recommended (1977-93)
If you choose the 1997 model, try to get a second series car that was made after April 1997. Keep in mind that premium fuel and astronomical insurance rates will further drive up your operating costs. And don't discount the serious safety-related problems you're likely to experience on all models. They run the gamut of sudden steering lock-ups when underway, electrical shorts causing vehicle shutdowns, non functioning parking brakes, brake failures cause by premature rotor warpage (around 16,000km) seat belts that jam in the retractor, and, on the 2005, the top suddenly flying off (a 2002 Ford Mustang trait, as well). The locked-up steering is particularly scary because it apparently carried over to the 2001 models, and traffic accident investigators may simply conclude that a resulting accident was because of driver inexperience or unsafe driving.
The section after this details problems, safety recalls, secret service bulletins, etc. It's over 5 pages long, so I'm not going to retype it. However, by comparison, the Mazda Miata or Toyota Celica have a single page.

PS: His rating scale goes Recommended, Above Average, Average, Not Recommended.
 

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Edit: Did my own research on that "steering lock up" problem. There is a GM recall for this problem on affected models and years. Or you can fix it yourself for $45...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1015483

http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog/?action=shop&sid=220&pcid=156

There are no documented cases of this happening in a moving vehicle. It occurs while the car is off, and parked.

Your author appears to have an agenda...

Not exactly a reason to avoid the car. Easily repaired defect. Much like a certain notorious head gasket on a certain Japanese sports car that I've heard about...
 

Zumtizzle

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Supracentral;1018268 said:
Not exactly a reason to avoid the car. Easily repaired defect. Much like a certain notorious head gasket on a certain Japanese sports car that I've heard about...

Don't forget crank rock on a certain American/Japanese sub compact. ;)
 

Sil

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Every Corvette owner I've talked to has never had any major problems with it. I've driven a few of varying generations, including the new style and can honestly say the c6 is really what a sports car should be(only downside is the somewhat shitty interior). Although I gotta say the ZR-1 is kind of ugly, it feels too overdone, I'd stick to a Z06.
 

NAiL05

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Most corvette owners I talk to keep pretty well documentation of the work done to there cars and they do keep up with maintenance more than most people in the world. Its the ones that owners dont take care of that eventually go to crap.