wideband bung

mcammarn

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Feb 24, 2012
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does anyone know if theres anything aftermarket that sells the turbo elbow with a extra bung it for a wideband?
i dont want to buy a new downpipe as the one i bought is practically brand new. i just didnt plan ahead for this,
and know beating myself up.
 

mcammarn

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Feb 24, 2012
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i thought the wideband had to be someplace by the elbow? where should i put it exactly on the dp? towards the top by the elbow,middle,or by the cat?
 

suprarx7nut

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AEM states it must be 36 inches from the exhaust port. Mine is installed in the pre-fabbed bung in my Raptor Racing downpipe and I doubt it's close to 36 inches. Probably more like 18. Lilkely means I'll need a replacement sensor sooner than normal, but oh well. In this case convenience has its price.
 

radiod

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I always wondered how the hell the stock O2 sensor lived so close to the turbo.....

Typical rule I've seen is minimum 18", it's safer further down. You're readings aren't going to change significantly if you've got it down the piping a fair way as long as you've got no exhaust leaks before the sensor.
 

destrux

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Stock O2 sensors are always in a compromised location thanks to emissions standards. They are usually placed close to the exhaust ports (it must be in a non-pressurized location though, which is why they aren't pre-turbo) so they will heat up and provide a reading more quickly so the car can enter closed loop mode and control emissions more quickly after start-up.

A wideband will work in a hot location in a pinch, but it will sacrifice some accuracy and life. The stock O2 sensor on my Mazda is a wideband and it's right on the turbo outlet. It's hot as hell right there. The sensor actually has a 3" round cone shaped heat shield that's attached to the sensor to protect it a little bit. The reason Mazda put it there was because they needed to measure the AFR before the primary cat, and the primary cat had to be as close to the combustion chambers as possible to heat up and light off as fast as possible to meet emissions standards.

On the Mazda I just changed it at 110,000 miles because it died and stopped putting out a signal completely. It's the first wideband I've ever seen die. It was an NTK wideband sensor, not a bosch like most aftermarket wideband kits use.

I put the Bosch LSU sensor on my Supra down right in front of the cat, on the downpipe. Probably the best location on our cars, it's got ample airflow and the exhaust has cooled down quite a bit. Just be sure to locate it in the upper 90 degrees of the pipe to keep condensation droplets from ruining the sensor.