i set a goal on friday to have the fw out by sunday. well after 12 hours and alot of extensions my beautiful r-154 is on the floor of my garage. the hardest part was definatly the top bolt on the starter, got it out by taking the rear tranny support out and tipping the whole thing back. used the same trick on the top bell housing bolt on the passenger side. and the top bell housing bolt on the drivers side was removed with a borowed 2 ft. extension that was matched up with another 8 in extension. man i am bouncing off the walls. tomarrow i will get the fw resurfaced and put on the pilot bearing and release bearing. hopefully it will all be in by the end of the week. spec stage 2 sweetness is on the way!!
whoo! got my tranny out today
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CTsupra
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cool! i haven't had the pleasure of dropping the r154 yet. though, i've dropped the auto out of my old 93' z28 lt1. one word - bitch......
12 FRIGGEN HOURS?
It takes me 4 hours for the motor AND tranny....you might as well of pulled the whole thing and sat it back in...less work/frustration really. :icon_conf
-Jonathan
It takes me 4 hours for the motor AND tranny....you might as well of pulled the whole thing and sat it back in...less work/frustration really. :icon_conf
-Jonathan
yea i was thinking that, an engine pull might have been easier. but Good job on getting it out, how heavy is that SOB?
Take it easy on the poor guy, might have been his first attempt at it. Nobody does it quick the first time. Personally, I applaud him for his patience for sticking with it for that 12 hours! (How many beers were in that time frame???)
CPT Furious said:
yeah cut me some slack guys. it was my first, first car, first tranny removal. and most of that time was spent on that stupid starter bolt. if i went back to do it again it'd wouldnt take so long. yeah and beers......not legal yet. i think it weighs like 50lbs? something like that. whatever, as soon as i finish typing this i go to pick up my fw from getting surfaced, swap out the TO and pilot bearings and have it all in by the end of the week, the week might end on friday or it might end on sunday, i dont know yet.
HINT:
Throw out bearing removal can be a PAIN.
Go to Autozone and get a bearig removal tool....the tip will be too large to initially fit into the bearing pilot hole...so your going to have to distruct the old beraing....The tool is a slide hammer with a bearing puller at the end.
when you tear away at it and get a big enough hole, put the bearing removal tool in there ( with the slide hammer on it) and pull back REALLY hard...and POW it comes out.
I spent 1 day trying to take mine out....tried the grease pressure thing first...couldnt get it to seal right...then tried to "dig" it out..( making the hole larger which worked out with the bearing remval slide hammer tool)....left pieces and the outer race of the bearing was still wedged in there like no tommorow....then i got the tool and in less than 5 seconds...it was out.
-Jonathan
Throw out bearing removal can be a PAIN.
Go to Autozone and get a bearig removal tool....the tip will be too large to initially fit into the bearing pilot hole...so your going to have to distruct the old beraing....The tool is a slide hammer with a bearing puller at the end.
when you tear away at it and get a big enough hole, put the bearing removal tool in there ( with the slide hammer on it) and pull back REALLY hard...and POW it comes out.
I spent 1 day trying to take mine out....tried the grease pressure thing first...couldnt get it to seal right...then tried to "dig" it out..( making the hole larger which worked out with the bearing remval slide hammer tool)....left pieces and the outer race of the bearing was still wedged in there like no tommorow....then i got the tool and in less than 5 seconds...it was out.
-Jonathan
srry if it sounded like i was being a ass. i just would think that the tranny would be hard to remove but not 12+ hours hard. well good job and good luck with the rest.
u take ne pics?
u take ne pics?
I was being an ass :hsugh: .....................
:wave: Just kidding. You did something I tried to do...and I broke down and sent it to Toyota.....LOL
:wave: Just kidding. You did something I tried to do...and I broke down and sent it to Toyota.....LOL
yeah havent done it yet. only halfway done. havent gotten to the pilot bearing yet but thanks for the tip. and tips on getting the snap rings back on the TO bearing? i have a pair of snap ring plyars(sp?thats not right at all) but they work as long as the snap rings have holes drilled in the ends of them. how do you go about opening the snap rins up to get around the bearing? can i drill some holes in them for my snap ring pliars?
nevermind i got it. i put one end of the snap ring in the groove and on the other side of the snap ring i got a pair of regular pliars and pulled the snap ring open, then i took a punch and pushed the snap ring down into the groove. now i just need to find a local auto-zone and get that tool.
What clutch do you have?
I re-used my snap rings from my old clutch on my RPS stage 3 PP......the snap rings broke the next week....they were too brittle from age and wear ( heat) and the extra load the RPS PP put on them broke them in a week...So I didnt have time to take my car apart AGAIN...so I carted it off to Toyota and paid $450 and waited a week......LOL You got to do what you got to do eh? :naughty:
So for the love of all that is holy, please dont re-use your snap rings with an upgraded clutch....you will just be tearing out the tranny AGAIN.... :icon_bigg
I re-used my snap rings from my old clutch on my RPS stage 3 PP......the snap rings broke the next week....they were too brittle from age and wear ( heat) and the extra load the RPS PP put on them broke them in a week...So I didnt have time to take my car apart AGAIN...so I carted it off to Toyota and paid $450 and waited a week......LOL You got to do what you got to do eh? :naughty:
So for the love of all that is holy, please dont re-use your snap rings with an upgraded clutch....you will just be tearing out the tranny AGAIN.... :icon_bigg
You think its hard to get it off, wait til you have to put it all back on. Biggest pain in the ass ever. Im actually in the middle of putting my tranny back on for the 3rd time. You think it would be a little easier the 3rd time but its not. Im at the verge of just pulling my engine and putting it back on that way 
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The hardest part about it is trying to put the tranny on at an angle and getting the damn input shaft in the pilot bearing. The easiest way is to try to jack up the engine at an angle and try that way, which has worked for me the other 2 times. And those starter bolts are even more of a pain in the ass to put back on then take off
. The hardest part about it is trying to put the tranny on at an angle and getting the damn input shaft in the pilot bearing. The easiest way is to try to jack up the engine at an angle and try that way, which has worked for me the other 2 times. And those starter bolts are even more of a pain in the ass to put back on then take off
hhmmm siman, that doesnt sound good about the snap rings. especally now that i got them on. but the spec pp is just a re-built stock pp, same clamping force. you still think it's nessisary to replace them?
thanks for the advice ladmo! i wasnt looking forward to the starter bolts but yeah i was gonna try jacking up the front of engine and man-handaling the tranny into place, bottom bell housing bolts first and then when they are on i was gonna do the top bellhousing/starter botls the same way i got them off. i figure plenty of people have done this before me (some have done it 3 times) so why cant i do it?
thanks for the advice ladmo! i wasnt looking forward to the starter bolts but yeah i was gonna try jacking up the front of engine and man-handaling the tranny into place, bottom bell housing bolts first and then when they are on i was gonna do the top bellhousing/starter botls the same way i got them off. i figure plenty of people have done this before me (some have done it 3 times) so why cant i do it?
Yes, my point is if you have a new throw out bearing ( always replace it when you replace the clutch) and you have a brand spaking new clutch.....keep it all together with new snap rings...
It wasnt fun sitting in the middle of a 4 lane road with traffic wizzing by in Murfreesboro TN.......not knowing what the hell just happend...and you look up under you car when you get it towed home for $60 bucks that the shift fork and everythign is shifted forward and the throw out bearing is sticking out in a weird angle.....and you dont have any more time to fix it and then you have to spend $ 450 for Toyota to fix it.....
just go buy the $20 worth of snap rings right now. Please. :icon_razz
-Jonathan
It wasnt fun sitting in the middle of a 4 lane road with traffic wizzing by in Murfreesboro TN.......not knowing what the hell just happend...and you look up under you car when you get it towed home for $60 bucks that the shift fork and everythign is shifted forward and the throw out bearing is sticking out in a weird angle.....and you dont have any more time to fix it and then you have to spend $ 450 for Toyota to fix it.....
just go buy the $20 worth of snap rings right now. Please. :icon_razz
-Jonathan