JASONA70;1286686 said:it would be pretty bad ass if someone could transform the MKIII into the .. batmobile. I'm sure its possible!
Neodeuccio;1286977 said:Since we're on the topic...
I've see a few cars with wide body setups that are absolutely beautiful. Tekdues' Project Cherry is probably the nicest I've seen, but my question is this: does anyone make a wide-body kit that doesn't require extensive body work to install? I would think someone would offer this, but I haven't had any luck finding one.
Any thoughts?
Actually, you're not off your rocker at all. 315s have been done with the right offset wheels and some fender pulling, no major mods required. I'd be surprised if Tekedus's widebody wouldn't accept a 375-380 width on the right wheels.Neodeuccio;1287852 said:Before you read this, I'd like to ask you all please not to tell me what I want to do isn't possible, or that I'm insane, or that it's gonna cost too much... I've heard all of this before, and it doesn't change anything...
Mostly I'm just interested in getting as much tire as physically possible under the car. My goals for the car (extremely long term) are to get upwards of 700whp, so I'm gonna need all the rubber I can get. 295's will do if I have to, but I'm hoping to find a way to squeeze 315's or (how cool would this be...) 335's if God will allow it. Yes, I know it's nuts. But we all do stupid things, I'm just planning mine instead of being stupid on the fly.
GrimJack;1288021 said:Actually, you're not off your rocker at all. 315s have been done with the right offset wheels and some fender pulling, no major mods required. I'd be surprised if Tekedus's widebody wouldn't accept a 375-380 width on the right wheels.
Neodeuccio;1287852 said:Before you read this, I'd like to ask you all please not to tell me what I want to do isn't possible, or that I'm insane, or that it's gonna cost too much... I've heard all of this before, and it doesn't change anything...
Mostly I'm just interested in getting as much tire as physically possible under the car. My goals for the car (extremely long term) are to get upwards of 700whp, so I'm gonna need all the rubber I can get. 295's will do if I have to, but I'm hoping to find a way to squeeze 315's or (how cool would this be...) 335's if God will allow it. Yes, I know it's nuts. But we all do stupid things, I'm just planning mine instead of being stupid on the fly.
Keros;1288059 said:Naw man, you're far less crazy than I am, don't worry about that.
Just remember that managing traction perpendicular to the direction of rotation (i.e. forward/reverse... acceleration/braking) is influenced by the width/height ratio of the tire, which (I think) is because the right ratio allows the tire to flex and deform along the axis parallel to the ground in the direction of travel. This lets the tread patch stay in contact with the pavement under greater inertial loading than if the tread patch was rigidly attached to the tire (via a very short sidewall).
In english, 375/20R19's will probably get you about the same traction as a 295/55/15. That's not to say getting wider tires won't help your ability to put down power, it does... but there's deminishing returns involved. Tire width alone plays a larger roll in lateral control (i.e. handling corners). Notice that top fuel dragsters have HUGE tires with a ton of sidewall? That's for the width/height ratio...
I think IJ commented that he liked the driving characteristics of his 17" rims over the 18" rims he switched to.
To manage cost and down time, I'm planning to pull the shit out of my fenders and roll the shit out of my fenders and stuff the biggest tires that will fit under them. Hopefully I'll be able to fit 265/295 or more under the front/rear, depending on what tire sizes are available for a 17" rim. Burning 5 grand or more doing a widebody is not a wise investement for only traction. Spending that money on suspension would probably do much more good than stuffing 345's.
On that note, Tekdues did mention 345 was about as wide as he could easily go.