wheel adapters or not

[Sassan]

so im thinking of putting wheel adapters on my car so i can run a wider tire. I have never liked spacers but i had a friend tell me about wheel adapters i wanted to see wat views you guys had on the idea if i did get them i was thinking either a 15 or20 mm wheel adapters. so any experiences would be helpful

 

[rodel]

While installing wheel adapters push out the wheel away from the suspension, running wider tires is not the intended benefit of the installation. Wider wheels will allow you to run wider tires.

If you are rolling on saw blades, you dont have to install adapters to install tires that are wider than the 225 oem tire width.

 

[Sassan]

im not running the saw blades. i have a set of 255s im running on a 17". so im trying to find out if adapters are safe to actually run on my car, and if so wat size would be better 15 or 20mm.

 

[rodel]

im not running the saw blades. i have a set of 255s im running on a 17". so im trying to find out if adapters are safe to actually run on my car, and if so wat size would be better 15 or 20mm.

As i mentioned, adapters are not for the purpose of running wider tires.


Adapters are not dangerous. Whats the width and offset of your wheels?

 

[Carl Johansson]

those 255's fit onto 17 X 8.5 just fine - in fact I think that is recomended, wheel spacers/ adaptors will move the tires toward the fender , ie give you clearance issues when you turn the front wheels - they may rub. not sure why you want to go with adaptors - do you have the wrong offset on the rims?

 

[Sassan]

the offset 42 and 44

 

[Poodles]

Spacers are fine, they use them in racing all the time.

 

[rodel]

the offset 42 and 44

What are the widths? Btw, just need a clarification...why are you considering the use of spacers? I ask because it seems that you are either dismissing or missing my message that spacers are not used to run wider tires.

 

[Dan_Gyoba]

Spacers are used instead of a lower offset rim is all. In an ideal situation, you'd just get rims with an acceptable offset, and run that way. Real world, sometimes you don't get that option.

As has been repeated many times, that's not necessarily to get a wider rim, but assuming that you have room on the outside between tire and wheel well, but not between rim and suspension, then that might allow you to fit it.

If what you want to do is widen the car's track, then it'll do that, too, but whether or not that's a good idea is something else.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, Toyota paid a bunch of engineers who know a lot more about suspension than I do a lot of money to design the system. Yes, it was designed for street and not track, but when you start to mess with offset and tracking, that's not something that generally improves things without a whole lot of work into other aspects of the suspension.

 

[TRDownShift]

Spacers are used instead of a lower offset rim is all. In an ideal situation, you'd just get rims with an acceptable offset, and run that way. Real world, sometimes you don't get that option.

As has been repeated many times, that's not necessarily to get a wider rim, but assuming that you have room on the outside between tire and wheel well, but not between rim and suspension, then that might allow you to fit it.

If what you want to do is widen the car's track, then it'll do that, too, but whether or not that's a good idea is something else.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, [BOLD]Toyota paid a bunch of engineers who know a lot more about suspension than I do a lot of money to design the system[/BOLD]. Yes, it was designed for street and not track, but when you start to mess with offset and tracking, that's not something that generally improves things without a whole lot of work into other aspects of the suspension.

I have to disagree, Your talking about a team or guys who turned a GT car into a 4x4 here, engines they did well (eh, lets not bring up the head gasket ) but the suspension is a different story IMHO, What I cant wait to do is get ARP Wheel studs, some spacers and some coilovers on this thing and change just about every setting on it.. lol (oh, and it's not really good thing wen your RWD car is so high off the ground you can tripod it in a hard corner... >.>)

 

[TRDownShift]

Spacers are used instead of a lower offset rim is all. In an ideal situation, you'd just get rims with an acceptable offset, and run that way. Real world, sometimes you don't get that option.

As has been repeated many times, that's not necessarily to get a wider rim, but assuming that you have room on the outside between tire and wheel well, but not between rim and suspension, then that might allow you to fit it.

If what you want to do is widen the car's track, then it'll do that, too, but whether or not that's a good idea is something else.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, Toyota paid a bunch of engineers who know a lot more about suspension than I do a lot of money to design the system. Yes, it was designed for street and not track, but when you start to mess with offset and tracking, that's not something that generally improves things without a whole lot of work into other aspects of the suspension.

I have to disagree, Your talking about a team or guys who turned a GT car into a 4x4 here, engines they did well (eh, lets not bring up the head gasket ) but the suspension is a different story IMHO, What I cant wait to do is get ARP Wheel studs, some spacers and some coilovers on this thing and change just about every setting on it.. lol (oh, and it's not really good thing wen your RWD car is so high off the ground you can tripod it in a hard corner... >.>)

 

[Sassan]

im using my car for drift and wen im on the track the is rubbing agents my lowered strut perches. so i had to go to a smaller width tire. so i was wondering if the adapters would be a good idea? thats the main reason i was asking bout the adapters

 

[Dan_Gyoba]

(oh, and it's not really good thing wen your RWD car is so high off the ground you can tripod it in a hard corner... >.>)

I'll disagree in turn, here. Ride height is more determined by the fact that the car does have to be able to deal with real-world city streets, and not tracks all the time. At stock ride height it's difficult to get around in the city sometimes, and there are certainly parking lots that I just avoid.

For tripoding, I've seen full-race Porches do that, and it's actually a good thing, or so say the people who set up the suspensions.

I will absolutely refuse to believe that any simple solution like wheel spacers could possibly do more good for the suspension geometry than they will do harm. I won't say that there is no possible combination of alterations which can be done to yield a better track car than factory. After all, the car was designed for street, not track. There are certainly some things like stiffer struts and lowering springs which can do some good there, but for things possible with the actual geometry of the suspension working with the chassis as-is?