w58 BillyM Shifter Bushing Discussion

BillyM

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I've been running a group buy for the last month for a much-needed fix for a common issue or flaw found in the w58's. I introduced the group-buy to this forum a few weeks back, but really have seen a much smaller interest than I expected. The few people from this forum who have purchased mentioned that they didn't know about it, just stumbled upon the thread in the GB section. This is the reason I've started this thread where most w58 owners will see (since there is no drivetrain section). Now lets get on to the discussion...

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Firstly, as you can see, there are three bushings in the w58 transmission. "Three?", you ask. Yes, three. The Seat, the Knuckle, and the Socket. With these three bushings are three individual problems.

1: The seat bushing is a rubber piece of crap. Toyota charges an arm and a leg for a rubber hunk of junk. Welcome to wet-noddle-ville. They make a thicker, green rubber piece of crap too. We replace it with a derlin (hard plastic) bushing made to fit tight. Problem solved.

2: The knuckle bushing is a soft little plastic guy. You can scar that plastic with a finger nail. ...I don't know who thought that up, but no way am I paying $7 for that thing. Not a chance. Again, we replace it with a derlin (hard plastic) bushing. Again, our problem is solved.

3: The socket. ...oh damn you Toyota engineer. You may have gotten a raise in 1982 when you designed the multi-layer socket in the name of comfort, but you crippled us in the long run and I curse you every night before I rest. The socket, from inside to the outside is a layer of plastic, a thin layer of metal, a layer of rubber, and another layer of metal. Problem is, plastic goes bye-bye after 50k miles, the thin layer of metal pushes into the rubber and deforms it. Call Toyota up to order a socket, and you get that same layered piece of junk, you have to drop your transmission and split the casing, oh... and it's ~$100. Screw that!

Here's a picture of said socket....
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This is where I come in. I had three cars that needed shifter socket repair, and I wasn't about to drop three transmissions. I shut myself in the back room of the shop for thirty days and thirty nights, and then I emerged a champion among shifter bushings. I've made a metal bushing that replaces the inner linings of the socket. Out goes the plastic (if you have any left), out goes the thin metal layer, and out comes the rubber layer. In drops my bushing (through the shifter hole, mind you) with a little adhesive, on goes the upgraded nuckle bushing I supply, and in goes the upgraded seat bushing I supply, reassemble and feel the "Shiftgasm".

Here's an image of the kit you receive.
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I've sold numerous sets to celica and mk2 supra people alike. The feedback I'm receiving is amazing and fits exactly with my findings. You will not, EVER feel a shift precision and feel in any other w58 unless you drove it off the lot. I promise this kit to be a one-stop-shop for shifting excellence with ease of installation and longevity being key.

Let the discussion begin.

--BillyM
 
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shaeff

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i'm assuming that #1 is the same as the marlin crawler unit? (i'm really bumping this so that more guys actually look at it!)

come on, guys, fix that sloppy shifter! the green bushing only goes so far! (and i've destroyed several of them)
 

Tire Shredder

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shaeff;883626 said:
i'm assuming that #1 is the same as the marlin crawler unit? (i'm really bumping this so that more guys actually look at it!)

come on, guys, fix that sloppy shifter! the green bushing only goes so far! (and i've destroyed several of them)

yup, bushings #1 and #2 are from marlin crawler.
 

thechori

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hmmmm... i just checked the status of my bushings and it says that they were delivered... but i haven't seen them, i'm gonna have to check if my family forgot to tell me they arrived or i've gotta give UPS a call

what kind of package were these shipped in?
 

BillyM

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Thecori, look for a 4"x6" brown paper or white plastic envelope. I'd put money on this sitting at your parents' place.

Shaeff, the #1 and #2 come from MarlinCrawler. I looked into making my own (there would be a larger profit margin that way...) but it would have come out looking exactly like the marlin crawler unit, and I don't mind giving them business for their fantastic pieces. I fabricate the #3 and combine it with the other two so I can guarantee performance. It also saves people the cost of multiple shippings, and lets them place one order and receive a full kit.

--BillyM
 

thechori

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i'm sorry to any people that may have gotten the wrong idea if i sounded mistrusting, the package was delivered to my MAILBOX, i thought it would've been delivered to my doorstep like most things do via UPS, but yes i did receive it. i will probably be installing it later today, thank you BillyM!

ps, it's CHORI :]
 

thechori

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hey i've got the bottom bronze piece down there and the tiny white piece on the bottom of the shifter, but how do i place that big ring-like piece? i can't get it under the 2 nubs, doesn't it replace that rubber piece that was exactly like it? ahhh help im retarded haha
 

BillyM

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Hold the piece with the notches face-down. Line the two notches up with the two shifter centering pins and rotate the bushing down in. It goes tightly, but if you use a flathead screwdriver and pry the leading edge up while rotating it in, it goes much easier.

--billyM
 

thechori

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BillyM;887137 said:
Hold the piece with the notches face-down. Line the two notches up with the two shifter centering pins and rotate the bushing down in. It goes tightly, but if you use a flathead screwdriver and pry the leading edge up while rotating it in, it goes much easier.

--billyM

OH.. shaeff's post cleared that one up
 
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shaeff

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thechori

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alright i installed everything and it feels great!

definitely a much more solid feel in and between gears. it's not TOTALLY solid, but it's damn close, and it's a HUGE step over my prior sloppyness.

thanks BillyM.
 

BillyM

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ValgeKotkas: "Your item was delivered at 6:12 AM on January 11, 2008 in COLUMBUS, IN 47202"
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Remaining stock means all payments up to 3pm EST were shipped out today (if they haven't shipped out prior)!

There is one more set left in stock, so the first payment I receive goes out tomorrow AM, additional orders will be part of the next batch, so act fast. ...and even if you can't act fast, act anyways. I've got a dozen or so installs and the feedback is excellent on each and every one. That is how I'm able to guarantee that the shift feel and performance will eclipse anything you've ever felt. Nowhere else will you get a performance guarantee. Workmanship, materials, defects, those come with any part, but to have someone stand behind the PERFORMANCE 100% is unheard of.

--BillyM
 

BillyM

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Boostin: Got back with him on it, he'll enjoy them.

TurboFreak: I don't make errors when money or products are concerned, you've a PM.

--billyM
 

ValgeKotkas

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My parts are safely by MDC :) He'll prolly ship them out tomorrow :) So in a month, I'll probably have a review and first impressions :D
 

GeneStarWindGSW

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Supraboostin;893754 said:
hey my friend wants to buy the last set,he sent you an email to your paypal email address

Thanks, Jose :icon_razz

Appreciate you helping me out with that.

BillyM;893934 said:
Boostin: Got back with him on it, he'll enjoy them.

--billyM

Yea that was me :biglaugh:
i'll let you know how my w58 is after i get this installed with some good ol' Redline MT90.

hope to have it soon.