Using a wideband with a Stinger

5uprahboy

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Hey all,

Can the wideband sensor be hooked up directly to the stinger? Or does the sensor need to go through the wideband "brain" and then into the stinger?

I'm using the W/B sensor that you get with a Zeitronix kit
 

hottscennessey

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Using the 4 wire Bosch sensor you connect it directly to the stinger, and the stinger acts as the wideband controller (no brains needed).

You could also use the Innovative LC-1 for a WBO2 input, but I like keeping things simple.

You won't be able to connect the zeitronix wideband sensor directly to the stinger, I had to sell mine and buy the 4 wire sensor.
 

RacerXJ220

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hottscennessey said:
You won't be able to connect the zeitronix wideband sensor directly to the stinger, I had to sell mine and buy the 4 wire sensor.

AEM WB output won't work either from what I gather.

I'm definately going four wire when I get home.
 

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hottscennessey said:
Using the 4 wire Bosch sensor you connect it directly to the stinger, and the stinger acts as the wideband controller (no brains needed).

You could also use the Innovative LC-1 for a WBO2 input, but I like keeping things simple.

You won't be able to connect the zeitronix wideband sensor directly to the stinger, I had to sell mine and buy the 4 wire sensor.
Warning: Newb questions coming up.​

So the Stinger takes the place of a wideband too!? That thing does it all. I know I sound like an infomercial, but damn, I get more and more impressed the more I learn about it. So I could buy one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyo...-wire-NEW_W0QQitemZ270120471554QQcmdZViewItem

and be set? Then, all I would need would be the wideband display/gauge to see the numbers?
 

hottscennessey

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Jaguar said:
Warning: Newb questions coming up.​

So the Stinger takes the place of a wideband too!? That thing does it all. I know I sound like an infomercial, but damn, I get more and more impressed the more I learn about it. So I could buy one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyo...-wire-NEW_W0QQitemZ270120471554QQcmdZViewItem

and be set? Then, all I would need would be the wideband display/gauge to see the numbers?

no, unfortuntely they use the most expensive (not to mention hard to find)Bosch LSM-11 AKA P/n: 0258-104-002.

Fortuntely driftmotion carries it for us.. it's on their main page.
 

5uprahboy

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hottscennessey said:
no, unfortuntely they use the most expensive (not to mention hard to find)Bosch LSM-11 AKA P/n: 0258-104-002.

Fortuntely driftmotion carries it for us.. it's on their main page.

Its just a shame they are so expensive compared to the 5 wire type. The 5 wire are around the $55 mark - bugger...
 

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Yes it is an expensive sensor, but it is still less then buying a controller and the sensor, like most other brands require.

The Bosch LSM-11 was originally designed for industrial high temperature gas furnaces, it is very durable.
It's not even close to being the most expensive wideband sensor though. Some are well over $300.


From the Stinger Help Files:
Bosch 5 Wire Wide Band (Innovate LC-1)
In this mode the Stinger ECU reads either analog 1 or 2 of the LC-1.
Before the LC-1 can be used with the Stinger it must be calibrated. Use LM Programmer
software to calibrate the LC-1.
Set the output to read 0.050 volts for 8.0 air-fuel-ratio and 0.950 volts for 22 air-fuel-ratio.
 
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5uprahboy

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bigaaron said:
Yes it is an expensive sensor, but it is still less then buying a controller and the sensor, like most other brands require.

The Bosch LSM-11 was originally designed for industrial high temperature gas furnaces, it is very durable.
It's not even close to being the most expensive wideband sensor though. Some are well over $300.

I've been told the LSM-11 isn't a "true wideband". Is this true?
I would like one, but I dont think I'd really have a use for it. The only reason I'd use it would be just to say "hehe look at my fuel". I wouldn't use it for tuning.
 

5uprahboy

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bigaaron said:
It just doesn't have quite the range that some newer sensors do, but that doesn't mean it's not usefull.

Ok thanks. I'll look into getting one at a later stage. Right now I just want to get it going, again.
How annoying, a few months off the road getting the stinger working, then as I get it running, I pull it off the road to put in a bigger turbo hahaha