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turbo06

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I don't know if you guys have gone over this or not but is there a twin turbo 7m gte or do you actually have to do some custom work. I was planning to get a jz motor but i think i can get my 7m to produce some seriouse results.
 
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To be honest in my opinion, there is no true advantage to twinning the 7m. If you build your engine correctly and have the turbo for the power you want you will get better results then twinning it. There is alot of custom work involved with it and alot of parts to be bought to do this. If you take the money form twinning it compared to just changing the turbo and supporting mods you will have better power in the long run.

I am not saying that a twin 7m would not be powerful (not to offend Yannis) but I rather spend the extra cash on other parts to make it more powerful for the same price.

The major difference is that you have to buy two turbos, a custom manifold and all the other parts (as mentioned in Yannis' theard). For that price, buy a nice LIPP BOSS turbo from SupraSport.com and supporting mods. You will get the power you want and may even have money to spare.
 

Stanzaspeed

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there are only a few companies that ever made twin mani's for the 7m. most if not all of those mani's are now discontinued. the most likely way to get a twin mani for the 7m is to get one welded up custom. not super logical in my opinion when you can buy a manifold for a nice sized single.

unless you are doing it to just be different, go single. if you have the money to custom make a nice twin set up, you can put together a gte with a nice single with a little less hassle.

just remember that more turbos dosnt mean more power...:icon_conf

oh and in your first post are you asking if there is a twin turbo 7m from factory? :squint:
 
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turbo06 said:
I don't know if you guys have gone over this or not but is there a twin turbo 7m gte or do you actually have to do some custom work. I was planning to get a jz motor but i think i can get my 7m to produce some seriouse results.

Are you talking about the narrow bodied 1ggte?
 

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turbo06

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I'm not familiar with this 1ggte so some info could help. No I'm aware that the 7M only came in single turbo. Judging by that mess of metal on that picture I'll stay single. That guy tho is doing a nice job with it. Can't wait to c his car on the road.
 

Stretch

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In that pic above, is that custom made box by the driver's strut tower a reservoir for oil? It appears to connect to that large nipple on the intake cam cover, and I would think it has another hose (out of view) than seals the loop and connects to the block nipple. I think this is a cool idea if true, you'd fill the reservoir with oil, and that way you'd have more than enough oil in everything. Unless I'm mixed up on this box's purpose.
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boost fiend

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that box on the driver tower is a catch can.trace all the conectors and it will point its self out to you.

as far as a twin 7m, just go with one big single. you will be happier in the long run!
 

Stretch

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I see now, so does that hose coming out of the box connect to the intake plenum, to use it as vacuum? Where else would that hose go?
eric
 

MassSupra89

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1 large single is better than twins. Thats why all the 600+hp 2J's are converted to single. all 6 cylinders power 1 rather than having to split it up and spool 2.
 

yannis-supras

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It really depends on what you're after. Proving the benefits of a twin setup compared to a single and vice versa is a long debate and I'm already tired of it. It all has to do with what kind of powerband you desire to get of your motor and how you want that power to be delivered.
If you want low end power and torque accompanied by linear, more useable power delivery and still be capable to make decent power then the twins would be better than a very good, late ball bearing GT turbo. On the other hand if utmost power is your goal and you don't mind a bit of lag (any hesitation below 2-2.2k RPM is considered lag by my measures :evil2: ) then obviously a big single is the way to go and for less money, that's for sure.

Talking about money though I think that if you go for a decent single setup the difference is not as much as most people think. A new Garrett GT3540R which is one of the best turbos you can match to the 7mgte with a nice power curve and 600hp potentials is about $1600-1700. I got both my T3s (fully rebuilt, ported and polished) for $660. Then you could go with the OBX manifold that is readily available on ebay for about $450 and spend about $300-400 for a custom twin downpipe. Then I'd say another $100-150 would go for the custom two-in-one hot side i/c pipe and you double the cost of whatever air filter you'd use for a single. Finally another $100-150 for your extra oil piping and that's it really.

So basically the total cost for the twins is about $200-300 more than just the price of a good single turbo that gives a comparable performance. And I haven't calculated any expenses for the GT3540R's custom oil lines and it's hot i/c pipework.

Now if you do the research and you are aware of the benefits of each setup, when you come to incline to the twin setup and you really want to go that way then $200-300 won't stop you. Don't get me wrong, I agree with everyone here that such a set up is a real pita and it gives you more headaches than usual but if linear response and balance between big power and control is what you're after then the twins will deliver.
My only objection in some ppl's posts is the "with the single you'll be better off on the long run" comment. Could someone explain what you mean by that? I can't see how two turbos will be less reliable than one if they all get treated/maintained exactly the same way.

And if the photo of that crazy piped monster scared you there, here's what my engine bay will look like when I'm done, with the exception that my car is actually LHD in contrast to the RHD in this photo:

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turbo06

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wow not bad bro. God damn that engine looks sweet. i realy want something that looks like that but i think i'll go single. After i'm done with mine i'll get another supra and make the 7m a twin. Jeeze dude your car is gunna be off the hook bro. i love those MKII's.
 

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NJsupraA70 said:

Thats gotta be one very very hot engine bay judging by the exhaust route... would a few bux for some heat wrap kill there? plus thats just way too much shit in there