Toyo tires wtf!!!!!

Wills7MGTE

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Ok guys, I have a 90 Supra Turbo auto and back in 03 I bought wheels and a set of toyo proxe FZ-4 tires with them. Stock suspension at that time, about 6 months later one front and one rear tire seperated in large chunks. The store I got them from gave me some line about pressure, wel they were up to pressure but I figured ok maybe one got low and I didn't notice, so every week I checked the pressure on all 4, none ever lost any pressure and low and behold 9 months later, another did the same thing.

The first time the 2 seperated I was given 4 "new" replacements for 80 dollar mounting and shipping fee. This time they replaced the one bad tire and charged me full price, this time claiming it was driven hard on. During this time the car was driven about 2000 miles total in the 9 months, only on weekends and only below 70mph, they werent raced on and they werent burnt off or anything else, just standard driving with the occasional boost here and there.

Well things went well for a while and I bought Eibach lowering springs, tokico illumina 2 struts, powerslot rotors, sway bars and a few other goodies and things continued to go well it seemed. I kept the tires inflated properly and I had them rotated and balanced every 4,000 miles per the tire shops spec. Then bam, the two fronts seperate on the interstate one day on my 20 mile commute to work when I was dispatching for another county sheriff's office, I dropped the car off at a tire place in town where I worked and demanded a better quality tire, I ended up getting 2 bridgestone Potenza's mounted up front, along with a new alignment. I realize a lowered car is going to wear tires on the inside but I knew something sucked with Toyo for some reason and from the shop I had been dealing with.

Last night, I had my right rear go flat, upon changing it to my full size spare to head home I found that the crappy toyo rears had seperated although they weren't apparently worn much inside. So to hell with it right, I went this morning and ordered two more potenzas for the rear.

I've noticed the potenza although the same size as the toyo is noticeably meatier and a lil taller, they also have not worn anywhere near as badly as these toyo's. Ive always heard toyo's were good tires but even new they didn't grip all that well and they seem to be seriously flawed and possibly dangerous, it could be these are old or retreaded by this shop that I no longer go to, but I am wondering has anyone else dealt with this????? especially from toyo's?????

I am no longerb uying toyo's from anyone I am going to stick with the potenza's and see how they go.
 

Wills7MGTE

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I guess you'ven ot had any issues with them, or you'ven ever had them. I am just wondering if anyone else has had issues with toyo tires????

Any other brands that have had issues like these?????
 

heavydrifter

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I didn't have any problems with mine...? but I used them for drifting so... yeah...

Anyway. Hey go to the Midwest forum and post up there.

Another supra owner and I are trying to get a MO meet together and want to get as many MO supra owners there as possible.
 

Wills7MGTE

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Well I won't have any tires till monday haha so it's on jackstands and I'm stuck driving my 98 Escort 5 speed DD till it's fixed so guess no cruising in the nice weather tonight just a trip to the movie theatre, I hope its still nice next weekend.

I'm going to Lemp mansion for the halloween party but I doubt I'll take the supra to that.
 

heavydrifter

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Wills7MGTE;1151943 said:
Well I won't have any tires till monday haha so it's on jackstands and I'm stuck driving my 98 Escort 5 speed DD till it's fixed so guess no cruising in the nice weather tonight just a trip to the movie theatre, I hope its still nice next weekend.

I'm going to Lemp mansion for the halloween party but I doubt I'll take the supra to that.

oh no dont worry it wont be anytime soon.

Most of the people going dont have their cars running including mine. hahah

But it would make it easier if everyone in MO posted in the section so we can PM everyone once we have a time and date set up.
 

BrandonW

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ive had good experiences with the proxes 4's (the proxy fz -4's might be a different tire)

but i like them i had them on my sawbaldes and i now have them on my rims and i like the ride they have and all
 

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Wills7MGTE

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Well when I bought them a lot of people had told me how good they were, I honestly think the shop is either buying old stock tires or maybe theres some other issue, the shop I got them from is the only one for about 40 miles that sells toyo's, everywhere else carrys michelin, bridgestone, nitto, yokohama and a couple other brands.

two occasions I had two seperate tires seperate chunks of tread, this time only one did however the other was starting to seperate between the sidewall and the tread.

The fact you guys haven't had issues with them makes me believe theres something wrong with wherever this place gets thier toyo's
 

Entropy

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Dunno what to tell you other than that sucks, but I've had no problems with Toyo, also.... The Proxes 4's that I had on the Supra were great, and then I also have a set of Toyo Open Country A/T's on my Colorado, and so far I'm extremely happy with those, too.
 

Figit090

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chunking, are they throwing tread blocks? or having bits get ripped off? do you have pics? I dont know what means what i'm just curious what can happen.

sounds pretty bad though. Did you check the manufacture date? They could be years old and dried up. Maybe they were a display model or a tire size nobody buys much?

I dont know if you saw my recent thread on deciding to buy my new set of tires, but here's a movie they showed me, that you should definitely watch;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDgSk5xWkrI
 

Wills7MGTE

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I unfortunately did not check the manufacture date on the old ones and the ones that recently did it are already off the rims in a truck somewhere.

What's happening is sections of the tire about 2 to 3 inches wide and a few inches long are peeling off of the tire itself. On a couple of the tires the tread actually seperated from the sidewall of the tire, those were attributed to low pressure however all tires were 5 psi above the min limit at all times during the time I checked weekly which was after the first incident occurred.

So yeah it sucks, kinda sad i am the only one it happened to but glad Toyo's are good, just maybe a bad area to buy them in.
 

Wills7MGTE

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Thats an excellent video, it's amazing how they can do shit like that, when they are over 3 years of sitting they should require them to be melted and make new tires from that rubber
 

Figit090

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agreed. I've been eyeballing tires in tires shops every time I go in and feeling the rubber. The older ones start to get shiny and stiff. Thankfully my new Kumho's are only 5 months outta the mold :D +1 for TireRack!
 

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Figit090;1152281 said:
agreed. I've been eyeballing tires in tires shops every time I go in and feeling the rubber. The older ones start to get shiny and stiff. Thankfully my new Kumho's are only 5 months outta the mold :D +1 for TireRack!

hmm....tirerack?
 

WhtMa71

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Yea thats a pretty odd problem. Have you contacted Toyo about this?
I've never had any problems with Toyo proxes tpt and t1r's. I love the t1r's. I've put 30k miles on the proxes and about 10 on the t1rs.
 

gtimportfanatic

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in my acura i was rolling with proxes and they sucked for cornering.. omg.. i went from coopers to proxes and that blew chunks.. the car was an acura integra and the handling with the coopers were waaaaay better.. alot stickers but a little more road noise... and then my friends mr2's handling went to shit when he got his proxes... i will never buy proxes again.. but if i come across a free set i will be willing to burn them off lol..