Suspension help please!

[s383mmber1]

Hey guys, i have a 1987 toyota supra and im getting 17 inch rims tommarow (tuesday) from reignmaker. I would like to start on the suspension next. Were do i start? I dont want to spend a lot of money. I heard that KYB GR-2 and eibach spring help. Whats your opinion? I wanna keep it under 500 bucks. Anybody sellign anything?

thanks in advance!

~~William~~

 

[tubbie]

Save the money and get a coil over set from tein. It's the best investment you can make.

 

[s383mmber1]

arent those in the 800 buck range? thats a lil exspenive. i mean i know you get what you pay for.....but is there a more simple like shock/spring combo?:1zhelp: :1zhelp: :1zhelp: :1zhelp:

 

[Suprastic]

I have eibach's sitting on gr-2's in the rear and agx adjustables in the front. I think that they are great and will do the job until I decide on a more extreme set up. I bought the entire set-up from 935motorsports.com

 

[SP 7M]

Saving for coilovers is your best bet and expect to pay well in excess of $1000 for a set. I think they cheapest I've seen the Tein Type Flex (what I have) kit for the MKIII was $1270 at 935. However, I'd just call either SP Engineering or HPF with that price and see how they can compare to it. They both offer price matching/beating and are known for great service and such. I got mine from SP Eng., but if I had to do it all over again, I would probably talk to either Jeff or Ron at HPF.

If you insist on going cheap I suggest that you don't get Tokico shocks. I've heard plenty of bad things about them. Get KYB instead. And Eibach is a good choice if you want a non-progressive spring. H&R offers a progressive set of springs.

 

[s383mmber1]

what teh difference between progressive and not?:1zhelp: Im really trying to learn about suspension....so please be as basic with "english terms" as possible

 

[SP 7M]

what teh difference between progressive and not?:1zhelp: Im really trying to learn about suspension....so please be as basic with "english terms" as possible

Progressive springs get stiffer as they get compressed. Linear rate springs have the same stiffness as they get compressed.

 

[MA70Supra88]

I was under the impression that Eibachs are progressive rate springs.

 

[turbo4toy]

the bilsteins with eibachs are badass IMO run you about $600. Much better than the tokico's or kyb's.

 

[Brewster]

I was under the impression that Eibachs are progressive rate springs.

They are.

 

[Suprastic]

I was under the impression that Eibachs are progressive rate springs.

Sorry, your mistaken. If i remember correctly there is a thread or a link to a site that has the different spring rates and progessive and non-progessive springs available. Just do a search and you should find it. I'll also try to search for it quickly:thumbup:

-Dan

 

[MA70Supra88]

Sorry, your mistaken. If i remember correctly there is a thread or a link to a site that has the different spring rates and progessive and non-progessive springs available. Just do a search and you should find it. I'll also try to search for it quickly:thumbup:

-Dan

I have been interesting in getting Eibachs for the past few years and everything I have seen has shown that they are progressive rate springs. I just did a search on Supraforums and every thread I saw said the Eibachs are progressive.

Suspention Techniques: linear front, progressive rr, 442 lbs, and 147-175 lbs, 1.3 inch drop

Intrax: progressive frt and rr, ~700lbs working, ~220lbs working, 1.75
inch drop

Eibach: progressive frt and rr, 343-628 lbs, 126-257 lbs, 1.5 inch drop

Tokico: linear frt and rr, 395lbs, 198 lbs, 1 inch drop

GAB: progressive frt and rr, 307-475 lbs, 146-218 lbs, 1.5 inch drop

H+R: progressive frt and rr, ~575 lbs working, ~285 lbs working, didn't
get the drop advertised

TRD: progressive frt and rr, ~670 lbs working, ~280 lbs working, didn't
get the drop advertised
-scott

I remember reading complaints about the Eibachs ebing progressive and therfore being unpredictible in the corners, but I think that was in a review before the site got hacked as I can't seem to find it now.

 

[Suprastic]

Well, you beat me to and and I stand corrected. The eibachs are very great in corners, however not as good as a complete coilover set-up like the D2's, Tein, or HKS hyperflex. The complete coilover kits are more aimed more towards track and autox use than eibachs (more street/strip use)

Are Eibach progessive or not? this could make a great.

 

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

and if I were to get a coilover system, I'd go for either silk road or kei office. just a matter of preference.

 

[SidewayzSupra]

If your going to be in it $500-$600 just save for a couple more weeks to get $900 and buy the Tein SS. YOU WONT be dissapointed. I rolled around on 18s for over a month before I got my Teins. I looked like a frikken hot wheel car:biglaugh:

 

[SupraMario]

I've got Tein SS's coming and ive read a lot of good reviews about them, so I figured you get what u pay for, so I spent the extra cash for coilovers instead of springs and struts.
go for the coilovers like everyone here is saying.

 

[Dirgle]

Well according to Eibach's website their springs are progessive rate.

http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/00542.2.6260453505000019740

 

[SP 7M]

I could've swore that Eibach was linear, too. Oh well, I've never payed much attention to springs anyway.

I used to have a friend that had GAB springs on his MKIII and he said they were linear. They had the same thickness throughout and his H&Rs did not. Can anybody confirm what they are?

As far as shocks go, I didn't know that Bilstein made them for the MA70. I knew that they came stock on the JZA70, though. I'd be interested in how those perform vs. the other brands.

 

[Suprastic]

They do make Bilsteins for the MA70. They're a bit more pricey than other struts, but are well worth it. 935Motorsports has a package price w/springs for them.

 

[islandsupra]

don't forget to look into a set of aftermarket swaybars too, they make quite a difference!
The only springs I know of that are linear are the ST's, and they are only linear in the rear and progressive in the front. I personally did H&Rs with tokico shocks and ST swaybars and am pretty happy with how the car feels in comparison to stock, and all for under a grand.
I would however, love a set of decent coilover (Ohlins anyone??) but I got a good deal on my springs/shocks.