Stuck Bolts..any ideas before I get out the torch?

[buckshotglass]

See the two hanging parts?
The bolts are rusted or stuck in the metal sleeves that are in the rubber bushings. Nothing so far that I have will move them...impact wrench, hammer, stuff like that. The rubber takes up a lot of the shock from however I hit it.
Both sides really suck right now.
I'm getting new bolts. The hammering and the start of a cut with the recip has destroyed them. No biggie, but they are not out yet.
The recip wants to wander into the bracket I need, so for now I'm done with that.
If anybody has a trick, I am open to it, otherwise I'm just getting the torch.
thanks

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

I hope you keep that flame away from the gas tank...

 

[buckshotglass]

I hope you keep that flame away from the gas tank...

Thats the thing... I need to take the tank out to replace, or at least for pumps, so I'm sidetracked doing that. but the bolts remain...There must be a way.
I can picture them melting away, without the rear subframe I need, I hope
:evil2:

 

[kwnate]

I just took apart a subframe and had the same issue. The problem I had was I used an impact gun on them and cambolt and alignment plate got stuck together and I couldn't push it through. I gave up and came back the next day, put my purse down and hammered it out.

Is that the same situation you're in or can you not get the nuts off?

 

[americanjebus]

a bunch of pblaster man. buy some cans coat, wait, then coat, wait, then coat some more.

 

[buckshotglass]

I just took apart a subframe and had the same issue. The problem I had was I used an impact gun on them and cambolt and alignment plate got stuck together and I couldn't push it through. I gave up and came back the next day, put my purse down and hammered it out.

Is that the same situation you're in or can you not get the nuts off?

no I got the nuts off no prob. I put them back on before I started hammering, thinking I was cloes to done. I killed all that with the hammer.
I think it's the salt around here.
I might of turned them with the impact, but I have gotten other ones of the same style apart on the car, so I think I can tell when they are spinning or not. Thanks Nate.
I can torch just the bolts, but the rubber is gonna be stinky. its a doable last resort. anybody?

 

[buckshotglass]

a bunch of pblaster man. buy some cans coat, wait, then coat, wait, then coat some more.

I have 2 days of PB (Love the blaster!) on there. and some wd
Thanks

 

[kwnate]

Try this, I assume you arent reusing the control arm. You have the A1 stuff iirc

Sawzall!!!

 

[ValgeKotkas]

I can't get em apart either(the bolts almost aint moving) + other 2 bolts that you already have gotten... o well. cutcutcut I guess

 

[buckshotglass]

Try this, I assume you arent reusing the control arm. You have the A1 stuff iirc

Sawzall!!!

Nice drawing Nate!!
If I make that cut, I think the bolts could be still stuck in place.:nono: I might try it anyway. Did you say you could get the tank out in 5 mins?

 

[kwnate]

Nice drawing Nate!!
If I make that cut, I think the bolts could be still stuck in place.:nono: I might try it anyway. Did you say you could get the tank out in 5 mins?

Yeah I can, but it'll take me a little longer to drive over there:icon_razz

 

[CRE]

Nice drawing Nate!!
If I make that cut, I think the bolts could be still stuck in place.:nono: I might try it anyway. Did you say you could get the tank out in 5 mins?

Then make two cuts and knock the center chink out. Make the cuts out to the sides as far as you are comfortable with. That way there's as little of the bolt's surface area binding to the sleeve, that should make pounding the ramains out easier.

 

[buckshotglass]

alright Nate hurry up. I'm going down to try more now.

 

[buckshotglass]

Then make two cuts and knock the center chink out. Make the cuts out to the sides as far as you are comfortable with. That way there's as little of the bolt's surface area binding to the sleeve, that should make pounding the ramains out easier.

Thanks CRE.
The sazall cutting sucks a little because the blade bottoms out and bends and pisses me off a little.
I'm gonna go do something.
Thanks guys...

 

[kwnate]

BRB with a new picture. Give me a minute.

 

[buckshotglass]

BRB with a new picture. Give me a minute.

I remember now..you can do it in five with a beer or two.
:icon_bigg

 

[kwnate]

Your tank might be a bitch because of the rust. Especially the fuel line :aigo: Draining into clean buckets is the easiest way I've found.

 

[buckshotglass]

Your tank might be a bitch because of the rust. Especially the fuel line :aigo: Draining into clean buckets is the easiest way I've found.

+ 10 points for the last drawing.
I saw that fat rusty fuel line, I'm cutting it.
You are the man.

I'm gonna go not blow myself up.

 

[buckshotglass]

thanks again for the help.
update is, the tank is out, and so are those two f-ing bolts.
I made most of the cut illustrated in the masterpiece above, but after three bi-metal blades, the fun ran out. Those are hard bolts, btw.
I torched off the heads of the bolts + a little grinding, and they were able to pry out.
I know I will sleep better.

I'm posting pics back over on my build thread in like 5 mins.

 

[Brewster]

man i need to remove those bolts too. =/ i have new a1 arms. i thought i paid toyota to do them but they only did the fronts... i guess they were able to get them in spec for the alignment, i don't see how though because i couldn't budge them with a big breaker bar. one of my arms is bent...