straight out of a horror movie

[cartel1_950]

WTF is going on in the world that this kind of shit happens!

http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/ab...wsitemid=CTVNews/20080731/Manitoba_bus_080731

it just makes me sick to my stomach reading this story.

 

[RazoE]

what the fuck is wrong with people..?

they said he was performint acts of cannibalism as well...

 

[cartel1_950]

really? i didn't hear that in the paper today they were talking about how he was gutting and sawing off the head when the passengers came back to see if the victim was still alive. seriously how does this happen in the real world, sure in a horror movie but on a greyhound bus! unbelivable

 

[Doward]

So they stabbed him, eh? Crazy world, eh?

 

[OneJArpus]

dude i just read that today and thats fucking nUTS!

 

[thevork]

So the head is off... time for a MHG eh?

 

[cartel1_950]

stabbed him is a little bit of an understatment.

 

[Facime]

So they stabbed him, eh? Crazy world, eh?

So the head is off... time for a MHG eh?

Jesus Christ WTF is wrong with people. If the act itself isnt enough to make you sick, people responding with what appear to be stupid canadian jokes is. The guy is beheaded and you think its funny? how about a little resspect for the dead? Oh wait, hes not some prominant right wing journalist, no one here on SM is going to jump to his defence...:3d_frown:

desensetized to violence much?

 

[cartel1_950]

i was starting to think that i was the only one who actually saw this as a sick incident. an unprovoked attack that not only killed someone but Eviscerated and beheaded that person really isn't something i'd make a joke of.

 

[Facime]

You are not the only one who is appalled by both the actions of the perpetrator but by the responce so far on this forum. Its apparent to me that there is something to be said for those who believe that violence leads to violence. Video games, television, new reports, even prime time sports like UFC and WWF may very well be contributing to an increase in violent crime. What is obvious though is that it all leads to a desensetization toward violence and thats how you end up with a thread like this.

Im appalled and disgusted. I need to step away and go work on my supra before I say things I might regret.

 

[mkiiSupraMan18]

^ I completely and whole-heartedly disagree. This would be a great debate topic on SM, though.


Messed up. It's no wonder you can't, or atleast won't, pick up hitchhikers or stop to help someone out anymore.

 

[Poodles]

Well, we are someone desensatized because we hear this kinda crap all the time, and until you SEE it, or at least see the person that died, it doesn't strike home.

Some people do react in such a way to make light of the situation because they don't know what to say.

Saw it a LOT after 9/11...

 

[suprahero]

It never really sinks in until it's somebody you know.

 

[Keros]

The part that makes it worse is that the family of victim were informed of the incident via the media, and then informed it was their son that was killed, via the media. Imagine sitting around the TV watching the news of someone getting beheaded on a bus saying "holy fuck, that's some messed up shit!"... then a while later some reporter knocks on your door and asks you if you knew your son just had his head cut off in a brutal butchering on a bus? That very much sums up the chain of events, as I've heard it.

The RCMP needs a swift kick in the ass. Fuck, is there anything else they'd like to fuck up? What the fuck? How hard is it for an RCMP officer to get their sorry ass into a cruiser and go over to someone's house and tell them? Yeah, it's a shit-job for a cop, but that's part of the gig. Even a fucking phone call would have been better? What, was there an all you could eat down at Timmies, or was someone holding up the dunkin doughnuts? What the fuck! IIRC, they live in winnipeg... you could spit across the fucking city. The RCMP would have to really try to make a bigger fuckup than failing to tell the family before the media does, in an incident that will be world-wide news within a day. Gee, way to make yourselves look like a bunch of incompotent fuck-ups.

Your odds of getting killed by a phsycopath are pretty low, if not even remote... but seriously, that was some fucked up shit. The dude stabs Tim like 50 times, when Tim was sleeping, cuts his throat, then cuts Tim's fucking head off and walked around with it like it was a bowling ball on a sunday afternoon. That's not just murder... that's a whole different level of brutality.

Apparently Tim McLean was a great guy; give ya the shirt off his back if he thought it could help you. At 22 years old, he was just barely getting to the good stuff in life... Then he picked the wrong seat next to the wrong guy, and now he's a headless courpse.

I hope that humanitizes things a bit. Society has a nasty habit of devalueing human life these days... but it wasn't just 'some guy'... he had a name, a phone number, friends and family who loved him... and now he's dead. 22 years into life, cut short.

Much like the guy that was killed in his supra, going for a ride... just a bad deal, I guess.

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

YIts apparent to me that there is something to be said for those who believe that violence leads to violence. Video games, television, new reports, even prime time sports like UFC and WWF may very well be contributing to an increase in violent crime. What is obvious though is that it all leads to a desensetization toward violence and thats how you end up with a thread like this.

If you have any concrete proof of this please show it.
People have been trying to prove it for years and still can't.

That said, I don't find this very amusing.

 

[Facime]

No JAV, the jury is still out on proving the connection. I was personalizing my own perceptions and say what I "thought" was a reason for the apparent callousness of some members here. Some studies seem to show a connection while others dont. Please note I said "something to be said" and "MAY" contribute. I was in no way stating fact, only my preceptions. I had a knee jerk reaction to...jerks.

Keros: well said.

 

[JDMMA70]

Very shocking story but its nothing we haven't heard or read about before in the past. I mean the Clutter murders in Kansas back in 1958. They killed the family point blank with a shotgun to the face. Even before that the woman who beheaded her husband and tried to hide it for years. We've seen it all before, its just a new day and another murder that will go down in history. Sure I don't know the man who was killed but I don't feel any different about him, I never knew the guy personaly, I didn't know his faults, if he was a cool guy or an asshole. However this proves that all human beings are capable of doing a deed like this we all harbour the will to do it, and may not know about it. You never find out you were capable of such a thing until it happens.

My respects to the family of the young man. Hope they all find peace.

~JDMMA70

 

[Jervis Mcstabby]

"They were very brave. They reacted swiftly, calmly in exiting the bus and as a result nobody else was injured."

Are you fucking kidding me? THAT'S what passes as bravery these days? A goddamn bus full of people run from some dick with a knife, and these cowards are called "brave"? That's the most sickening part of this story to me! Then it says they go back in later to "rescue" the poor kid, but here's a newsflash: when someone's already being stabbed, you don't have time to leave and grow a spine!:3d_frown: Ugh...

 

[ForcedTorque]

Are you fucking kidding me? THAT'S what passes as bravery these days? A goddamn bus full of people run from some dick with a knife, and these cowards are called "brave"? That's the most sickening part of this story to me! Then it says they go back in later to "rescue" the poor kid, but here's a newsflash: when someone's already being stabbed, you don't have time to leave and grow a spine!:3d_frown: Ugh...

This is one of the better points made here. Certainly the women and children should have exited as quickly as possible. But, the boys on the bus (not gonna call them men) should have stayed to help. Hell, does a bus driver not carry a weapon for this possibility? That bus driver should have been the last person to exit that bus. The RCMP should have no one but witnesses to question here. This is a fucked up world we live in. Until we learn to react, these idiots will continue to drag on a situation far past the original act of ignorance.

 

[gtsfirefighter]

Hell, does a bus driver not carry a weapon for this possibility?

I'm sure they're not allowed to. Up there, weapons are the problem, not the people. They'll probably want to pass some anti-hunting knife law now.