r154 vs w58 ?

[90greysupra]

What is a better transmission? I have both and have heard that the r154 is great and reliable and have heard that the w58 is very smooth and not very strong. Can anyone give me any input? I like my r154 but i also have never drove anything with a w58. thanks

 

[shenronzero]

this is a very well covered topic... you should do a little bit of searching on it... i started one of them asa matter of fact. i have two supras each has a different trans in it. they are really like night and day. what you have to ask youself is what are you going to do? am i going to leave my motor stock and just have a nice DD? or will i be making a high HP car to take to the track every once and a while? answer these questions and we will be able to help you out a little bit more. but like i said search it too. its an easily covered topic

 

[1-2clutch-u]

keep the 154 and sell me the w58. i love the w58 and if you never drove one then just stick with the r154 its stronger and what not. But really Ill take that w58 off your hands.

 

[90greysupra]

keep the 154 and sell me the w58. i love the w58 and if you never drove one then just stick with the r154 its stronger and what not. But really Ill take that w58 off your hands.

alright man it came with everything so throw me a price.

 

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

The simple answer is the W58 is a better shifting smoother tranny for a factory model car it will hold if you dont abuse it a factory hp na car so i would say no more then 230hp like the mkiv.

The R154 is a must if you have more then 250hp and want something bullet proof to play with.

 

[shaeff]

I was daily driving a w58 behind my 7mgte @ 289rwhp/ 295rwtq. It was holding just fine. drjonez blew one up with a super heavy foot at around 400rwhp. If you don't launch on it, the w58 is a great transmission. I wish the r series was as silky smooth.

Once you get up there in power, it's advisable to start looking for an r154.

 

[MK3.0dudeman]

the W58 will hold just as long as you don't launch hard(but what fun is that)The R154 will take a hell of a beating and is the better trans with out a dout.If you have both go with the better one.R154.

 

[90greysupra]

the W58 will hold just as long as you don't launch hard(but what fun is that)The R154 will take a hell of a beating and is the better trans with out a dout.If you have both go with the better one.R154.

thats for sure who doesnt launch with a supra? haha that the most fun alright i think i found what i was looking for but i have also heard that there was two w58 models made the steel reinforced one and the other regular one? I read this under wikipedia - w58 toyota trans. thanks

 

[Poodles]

W56-B that was in the trucks is the same series as the W58 but with a steel center plate (like the R154).

Never available in our cars though.

Personally the W58 isn't that much smoother than the R154 IMHO, and about which tranny is "better" you be the judge from this diagram...

 

[90greysupra]

W56-B that was in the trucks is the same series as the W58 but with a steel center plate (like the R154).

Never available in our cars though.

Personally the W58 isn't that much smoother than the R154 IMHO, and about which tranny is "better" you be the judge from this diagram...

thanks for the info man but it does look as if the r154 has more moving parts? the r154 does have bigger gears and shafts though. the w58 look kinda chintzy.

 

[Eman14j]

R154 my buddy converted his 84 to a 7mgte swap and the tranny of course R154 leave the 58 be ok LOL :: badger ::

 

[90greysupra]

R154 my buddy converted his 84 to a 7mgte swap and the tranny of course R154 leave the 58 be ok LOL :: badger ::

dude you make no sense? are you trying to tell me that i should leave the w58? cause i am in the process of selling it and bolting up my r154 to my 2jzgte motor that im swapping into my car.

 

[shaeff]

^ Sell the w58, drop in the r154. You'll be better in the long run.

 

[90greysupra]

^ Sell the w58, drop in the r154. You'll be better in the long run.

i dont know if i worded this thread correctly? i shouldve said i bought a 2jzgte jdm engine it came with a w58. I really didnt want this tranny but i got it i shouldve been more specific but oh well. so now what im going to do is sell the w58 and buy a 1jz bell housing and maybe a new clutch plate. thanks

 

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

awe crap GTE needs R154 there is no VS comparison we thought you were na upgrade comparing

Also a good W58 will go for an easy 3-400 alot of people who swap the 3sgte or 4age into RWD use that tranny or older.

 

[90greysupra]

awe crap GTE needs R154 there is no VS comparison we thought you were na upgrade comparing

Also a good W58 will go for an easy 3-400 alot of people who swap the 3sgte or 4age into RWD use that tranny or older.

oh yea im sorry man im still a newb so im kinda just messin around tryin to chat about thing i dont know for fact and on the way learn for my swap... win win situation thanks for the info on the w58 tho hopefully i wont have a problem selling it...