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[djordan97]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Supr...ryZ33554QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

anyone using these kind of injectors? and if so how have they worked for you?

 

[jdub]

Those are the Venoms...mixed results from what I've read here. Some guys have no problems...some do. Do a search and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Got RC injectors myself...top-notch product.

 

[suprabad]

Venoms= crap. Tried 'em, hated 'em, tossed 'em.

 

[MDCmotorsports]

Venoms or reworked / bored out stock = dead engine

Denso, Lucas or R/c Engineering FTW.

 

[Suprapowaz!(2)]

Venoms or reworked / bored out stock = dead engine

Why would that = dead engine?

 

[xarewhyayen]

Why would that = dead engine?

because injector failure= boom, lean-ness -> Detonation->> hole in piston & bhg & probably other shyt too

 

[Suprapowaz!(2)]

I will tell you this, my set of Venom 550cc injectors flowed 528cc's when I took them in for cleaning. All six were within 1% flow tolerance of each other, so were their impedence. They weren't quite 550cc's, overall I'm happy with them. Being that they're reworked stockers I don't see why people call them junk. Are stock 440cc's junk? Do stock Nippon Denso's just fail at any time? I haven't heard of that happening. So why would Venoms just stop working and ruin your engine? I might send mine back to Venom and see if they can rework them to 720cc's.

Everybody who has run Venoms and called them junk... where is your proof? Did they ruin your engine? Did you take those injectors in for testing to see if they failed? See how much they flowed? So many people like to call them junk with no facts to back up their statement.

 

[Suprapowaz!(2)]

because injector failure= boom, lean-ness -> Detonation->> hole in piston & bhg & probably other shyt too

If Venoms are reworked stockers then I guess we can all fear our stock 440cc Nippon Denso's will fail at the same rate too right? So we should all toss our junk stockers and upgrade.

BTW, have you had any experience with these injectors? Did your engine fail because a set of these? Please tell us your experience and how you came to the conclusion that it was your Venom injectors that caused your engine failure. Thanks.

 

[figgie]

If Venoms are reworked stockers then I guess we can all fear our stock 440cc Nippon Denso's will fail at the same rate too right? So we should all toss our junk stockers and upgrade.

BTW, have you had any experience with these injectors? Did your engine fail because a set of these? Please tell us your experience and how you came to the conclusion that it was your Venom injectors that caused your engine failure. Thanks.

noo see

the difference is that ND knows what they are doing.

venom on the other hand has to open the ND injectors and bore them out AND change electronics. Introducing the all mighty human variable into an equation.

you have no problem YET, that is fine. When you hit 200,000 on the venom injectors. Please post up here.

 

[Suprapowaz!(2)]

At 200K miles I think any brand fuel injector would be in question. You guys post up stuff that you have no facts about. When Will Neely went through 6 motors not one of you thought about putting fault on his injectors. Not one! But if for some reason he was running Venom fuel injectors you guys would have been screeming witchery. Off to the witch dunking tank! Instead it was blamed on something else... piggybacks for the most part. Is it possible that his injectors would have been the cause for his detonation 6 times? Why would someone crank up the boost without fuel compensation? Something must have fell short during his tuning. Are you guys/him absolutely sure it wasn't one of his injectors that temporarily went out of service for a split second causing a fatal detonation. No, not possible unless they were Venoms. :icon_mad: When the word Venom show its ugly face everybody is quick to call them junk. How many of you have run these injectors and actually found them faulty?? After years of service in mine they weren't. And don't say, " well my friend of a friend didn't like them" stuff either. I actually took mine to a fuel injection specialist to have them flowed and tested. How many of the naysayers have done that..... to any brand injector?

 

[lintlars]

My brother bought these Venom injectors after 1 week of driving on stock fuel pressure one let go it got stuck open flooding his crankcase with fuel luckily he was close and limped it home it also spilled fuel on the outside of a hot engine! Now you tell me if thats not shit Ive had RCs for the last 7 years not one problem. We sent these back to the company that sold these to him guess what no Warrenty it was swept under the carpet. Now go ahead and defend your crap injectors its not a witch hunt they are in fact junk.


This is the same stupid thread that keeps coming up about Venom do your self a favor dont cheap out spend the extra 100$ and get a decent set on injectors

 

[Suprapowaz!(2)]

Well after 7 years of running my Venoms I haven't had any problems with mine. Sorry your brother did. I must have the only set of Venoms that haven't failed on people. So you mean to tell me that other brand injectors have never had a problem? Out of thousands of injectors sold by the other guys not one of them have failed? I'm sure it's happened, but prolly goes unreported. Parts do fail. There's not one manufacture out there that hasn't had some kind of failure with their product. It's when a huge percent of their products fail is when there's a problem. Some people come in here and complain about SPEC clutches failing within the first 1000miles and call them worthless junk. Other people swear by their clutch sets. Just because a limited numuber of people have a bad experience with it doesn't mean that all of their stuff is trash. Just had a bit of a quality control issue.

BTW, I can afford $100 more for a set of "decent" injectors but mine have been holding up good for sometime now. I did a search on google about Venom fuel injectors and failure rates. You'd think you would see alot of threads about this, but I haven't ran across one. I'll keep searching and if I find something about them I'll let you know.

 

[xarewhyayen]

If Venoms are reworked stockers then I guess we can all fear our stock 440cc Nippon Denso's will fail at the same rate too right? So we should all toss our junk stockers and upgrade.

BTW, have you had any experience with these injectors? Did your engine fail because a set of these? Please tell us your experience and how you came to the conclusion that it was your Venom injectors that caused your engine failure. Thanks.

I wasnt saying that venoms will fail, i was going on the fact that someone said they can fail ( reworked injectors are known to have a higher failure rate). I didnt say venoms will fail, i was saying WHY failed injectors will destroy a motor. I have 191k miles on my stockers and i would never "upgrade" something as crucial as fuel delivery with something that is known to be lack lustre. I dont see why you are defending a product that "has a chance" at being great. People are simply conveying that you probably shouldnt take a gamble using injectors which many people say fail on them when you can spend a few more bux and get something proven like the RC's. Just my .02.... no need to be so defensive

 

[MDCmotorsports]

Actually you guys went down the wrong road.... I have heard of reworked stock injectors and the venoms STICK OPEN and go static, causing massive hydrolocking of the cyl and thus throwing a rod out the side of the block.

 

[Suprapowaz!(2)]

BAH! Witch hunters... all of you! I'm planning on upgrading to 720cc's soon. Yeah, I might go with the other guys. My Venoms served me well for years as a daily driver, and many passes down the dragstrip. I didn't have a problem with mine. I even took mine to get checked before I reinstalled them, and they were fine. But my plans for my engine combo is going to need more fuel. It just seems like I hear alot of bad stories about Venoms, but hardly anybody has any real proof. So my experience with them were good. I can't speak for everybody though.

 

[figgie]

At 200K miles I think any brand fuel injector would be in question. You guys post up stuff that you have no facts about. When Will Neely went through 6 motors not one of you thought about putting fault on his injectors. Not one! But if for some reason he was running Venom fuel injectors you guys would have been screeming witchery. Off to the witch dunking tank! Instead it was blamed on something else... piggybacks for the most part. Is it possible that his injectors would have been the cause for his detonation 6 times? Why would someone crank up the boost without fuel compensation? Something must have fell short during his tuning. Are you guys/him absolutely sure it wasn't one of his injectors that temporarily went out of service for a split second causing a fatal detonation. No, not possible unless they were Venoms. :icon_mad: When the word Venom show its ugly face everybody is quick to call them junk. How many of you have run these injectors and actually found them faulty?? After years of service in mine they weren't. And don't say, " well my friend of a friend didn't like them" stuff either. I actually took mine to a fuel injection specialist to have them flowed and tested. How many of the naysayers have done that..... to any brand injector?

Please

Will Neely went through 5 to many engines to do what he could have done with ONE engine and a proper tune!!! All because he wanted to stick with a VPC.

As for 200,000 miles

funny you say that as the stock ND in mine where never sent out for cleaning and they still worked when the motor died!!
And they STILL work even after being pulled from the car. I sure as hell would not gamble $1000 dollar motor much less $5000+ motor on cheap injectors. I don't think so!

 

[lintlars]

Suprapowaz Im not trying to convince you, I realize you are sticking with your venom injectors this thread is for Djordan and yes MDC is right ive seen them stick open and also burst at the same time spilling fuel outside the engine you asked for proof and I put forth the proof you required no witch hunt here.