Oh how I bet you guys that have emissions wish you got this lucky!

SupraOfDoom

SupraOfDoom

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http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=744206

Starting on July 1, cars and trucks built before 1996 will be exempt from having to undergo vehicle emissions inspections in southeastern Wisconsin. The latest figures in 2007 show that the change would have affected 28% of vehicles in the region - or about 175,000 cars.
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The number will drop annually in successive years as older, less-efficient cars leave the road, according to the Wisconsin Department of Transportation.

The decision to give older cars a pass will also send more pollutants into the air until 2018. But other factors such as the use of reformulated gas will lessen the effects, officials say.

These and other features are part of a revamping of the state's emissions inspection program for cars and trucks in seven counties, including all of metro Milwaukee.

There will be other changes taking place for the first time and affecting vehicles in the 2007 model year and after:

• Testing diesel-powered vehicles will be required,

• Testing heavy-duty vehicles that weigh 10,000 to 14,000 pounds also will be added. This weight class exceeds most large pickup trucks and SUVs.

Also, as a harbinger of the future, the Department of Transportation will offer a self-service function starting in July 2009 at selected testing stations where motorists could plug their vehicles into equipment to see if they meet standards for clean air.

Officials say the changes, which were approved by the Legislature, are driven by potential cost savings and technical improvements in cars and testing technology.
Making up for the losses

Cars built before 1996 require more expensive testing. Currently, the state exempts cars in model years 1967 and older.

The $13.3 million annual program - in Milwaukee, Waukesha, Ozaukee, Washington, Racine, Kenosha and Sheboygan counties - is financed by the state transportation fund, the state's general fund and other sources.

Cars are tested every other year at 12 facilities in the included counties.

The program began in 1984 as a tool for the region to come into compliance for violating federal clean air standards.

On a hot summer day, state figures show that the program reduces volatile organic compounds by about carbon monoxide by about 15%, volatile organic compounds by 12% and nitrogen oxide by 7%.

Yet state documents show that exempting older vehicles means reductions in auto emissions will be slowed until 2018.

But officials at Department of Transportation and the Department of Natural Resources emphasized the effect will not hamper the state's efforts to control air emission while saving state tax dollars

For example, in 2009 pollutants are projected to be 18% to 21% lower than otherwise when older vehicles are not tested, documents show. By 2018, the difference will drop to 1% to 2%.

"The changes will not be consequential to overall air quality," said Kevin Kessler, director of the DNR's Bureau of Air Management.

The Department of Natural Resources said other factors such as the use of reformulated gas, improved federal mileage standards and adding other vehicles into the testing program will make up for the losses.
Cheaper to test new cars

Meanwhile, exempting older cars will drive down the cost of the program, said Charles Rhodes, who supervises the vehicle inspection program at Department of Transportation.

Currently, the program costs about $19 per vehicle, according to the department.

Officials said it was unclear how much the state would save because its contract with its vendor, Envirotest Systems Corp., is expiring, and officials are analyzing new bids.

But Illinois officials have said the costs of their tests dropped to about $10 per test when older cars were dropped.

Testing older cars built before 1996 requires a technician to drive the vehicle on a set of rollers.

Newer cars built after 1996 have on-board diagnostics, which takes less time.

"The hard answer is that it is cheaper to test the new cars," Rhodes said.

Specifications for the new bid required companies to offer limited self-service at the start. But officials hope the winning bidder will broaden those offerings for motorists to test cars without having to wait in line at a testing station, said Stephen Hirschfeld, program analyst for the inspection program.

He said the Department of Transportation required a minimum of two self-service kiosks, "like an ATM," that motorists could plug into their car for tests.

Another feature not required in the bid, but likely to be used, is wireless technology.

Hirschfeld said the technology is much like Illinois' automated toll lanes where wireless signals read a vehicle's identity and report the findings.
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Big Wang Bandit

Big Wang Bandit

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California emissions is utter bullshit and in reality its all there to bring more money to the state.

But still, I agree, don't pull your engine apart, thats gay. No one should care about what your engine looks like.

pre SMOG cars rule
 
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iheartmx83

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jdub;1006931 said:
Why...so you can yank all yours off to "clean up the engine bay"?
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LOL theres not much emmision stuff to clean. its just that if i wanted to swap i can just swap and dont have to worry about smog check.

and what is there in the engine bay.. egr ? the o2's actually function.. and the cats function. egr really doesent hurt performance if you running stock or near stock.

its just the factor of pasing smog. and my engine bay is somewhat pretty clean. :D
 
jdub

jdub

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I'll agree there are aspects of CA emissions that are rather "draconian"...that's what happens when the bureaucrats are allowed to go nuts. The only thing I can see is on a 1JZ swap is the lack of any emissions...if it had them or could be retrofitted, I don't see a problem.

On the other hand, you see guys all over the place that don't think twice about yanking the EGR, CAT, charcoal canister, etc...basically just to "clean up the bay" or to gain that 5 extra HP. What kills me is these guys have to breathe the air too...spend a couple days in Beijing or Cairo and what it does to your eyes and sinuses for starters. I'm not an enviroNazi, but I just don't get it. And, what you have to think about is this is exactly the behavior the bureaucrats use to justify what they are doing.
 
Poodles

Poodles

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Emissions should be about emissions, period! If it passes the sniffer test and the evap system works fine, wtf matters?

Modern cars don't run EGR...
 
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foreverpsycotic

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My car has not gone through emissions in a good 5+ years (passing). I have owned the car for 2 years and they still have not sent me a notice about emissions. As of right now, I would fail miserably (nothing emissions related what so ever, 1jz with a test pipe) but my new exhaust setup will utalize 2 cats (the only reason I might fail is because the exhaust pipes do not extend past the passenger compartment)
 
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Sil

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They still want me to test my Supra, I called them today and they said essentially if I pass it will be for a month and a half that I got the emissions test. On the bright side if I fail 3 times I'll just wait till July 1st and not pay the extra test fee.
 
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