New goal make tire barely touch A arms

[NashMan]

Well I want more angle with out ditching the power steering

I made rack beefer and I had to ditch power steering cause I add more notches to the rack it's self built this can't bean done proper with out ditch power assist

here is another fact 88 power rack turn less then 89 plus

the 91 rack so I have been told has more and the speed steering bean revised better then the 89


any way


I have an idea so far to grab this extra set of hubs and cut the ears off then mill them down for spacers

then use nylock nut cause not sure if the get the cotter pin back in


or use these I know the taper is the same for the tie rod end spigot

but are the tie rods the same thread and size

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mega...011QQitemZ320259121990QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V


and I think I may try and see it I can mill/lathe down the inner tie rod to get more steering and move that stop even more

and if the damper binds just ditch it but bump steer will be gay

 

[Wiisass]

Cutting the spindles will work. I've got like 2 spare pairs of front spindles here that will be getting cut and welded and I will be testing them once this car gets back on the ground.

I don't know how much more there is to gain with the rack, I doubt there's much without compromising steering geometry or getting too expensive. But then again, I don't know about year differences and all that crap.

The thing you need to watch out for is you cut and weld the spindle is that you might mess up steering geometry. I haven't measured everything or done the calcs, but depending on where you put the tie rod end, it may give you more angle but screw up everything else and completely suck. You have to consider ackerman, steering ratios and bumpsteer when doing this kind of stuff.

What damper are you talking about? The steering damper? Lose that thing, it sucks.

 

[NashMan]

oh i know that but if the tie rod end is spaced up should not be to be of deal remmber you have only so much thread on the tie rod end and if useing the other spaceing the rack may be an idea as well

i got this spare rack and nuckles on this parts car has no motor so i can use strap to find out the movent

if the streeing is fixed on the supra it be such nice car to slide

as new set of nukles or spindle welding i whould never wana do in less it is has taperd compstion callor then welded but not sure fi there is eghough room

teh dampner is good thing to have on bumpy road but not needed i going to see if can make some thing work in it place or some thing

 

[Wiisass]

What part of the tie rod are you talking about when you say "spaced up"? Are you talking about the outer tie rod? Actually, I have no idea what you're referring to in any of the first part of that post.

The supra is nice to slide with just steering spacers. It could definitely use more, but for 99% of the people the drift on this site, the spacers are more than enough.

What's a tapered combustion collar? It sounds cool, I think I want one.

But if you mean a tapered end for the tie rod to bolt to, then I guess it could be important if it were a production piece, but I don't think it's that big of a deal. Tapers are good for production car where people don't look at anything ever. But they aren't really needed. A good bolt and nylon locknut would work fine. But I guess if you can keep the stock end and just shorten the arm, that might be the best.

Where would there not be enough room? To shorten the arm?

Just get rid of the damper, you won't even notice it's gone.

 

[NashMan]

oh i plan to get rid of the damper if i can't find some thing els to use in it's place

as in what i was talking about was raiseing the tie rod end up with taperd spacer but i may drop this now since i found out some thign really cool

i was playing with the stock rack again it's 88 rack and low and behold that alot of room to go

so i going to take the stock inner tie rod and shave some meat off the stop with leath or other

i gonna mesher all of it again but i think i can get an extra 8 mill out of it apon the spaces that i have on there now





i was talking wiht buddie of mine he sadi that ae inner tie rod will thread in but i have yet to try this

 

[Enraged]

what does the steering damper do? not very noticable without it?

 

[NashMan]

it for bumpy road takes the shock away that about most trucks have them and very few cars

 

[Wiisass]

oh i plan to get rid of the damper if i can't find some thing els to use in it's place

as in what i was talking about was raiseing the tie rod end up with taperd spacer but i may drop this now since i found out some thign really cool

i was playing with the stock rack again it's 88 rack and low and behold that alot of room to go

so i going to take the stock inner tie rod and shave some meat off the stop with leath or other

i gonna mesher all of it again but i think i can get an extra 8 mill out of it apon the spaces that i have on there now





i was talking wiht buddie of mine he sadi that ae inner tie rod will thread in but i have yet to try this

What would you want to bring the outer tie rod end up?

So you think the rack has more travel? If it does, that would be nice.

I still want to modify the spindle for better steering geometry. I want to mess around with ackerman a little and see which of my ideas will work the best. I also want a slightly quicker steering ratio which I will get with the modified spindles. And I'll take a look at bumpsteer.

I don't know, I've got a lot of ideas on this and just need to make some of them happen.

And corolla inners have the same thread on the part that threads into the rack. But I don't know about any of the other dimensions and if they're different or not.

 

[NashMan]

well i going to find out some time how my rack we have to play with fully then mabye grade an ae86 extetiona nd chuck it on

 

[NashMan]

still ahve yet to get around in gettign into that rack hope i get around to it soon