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peachtits

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alright im trying to work through everything to do with gettin the car started... replaced wires, plugs, tested the coil.. fuel filter and pump are new.. after i replaced the wires one day it fired right up... and then the next morning it didnt start(just turned over) so i changed the plugs fired right up a couple times then did the same thing just sat there and turned over... so now im stumped and all outta ideas.. so if anyone does have some ideas what it could be let me know, thanks
 

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thanks for that.. but it didnt identify my problem yet..ill get it started after a while of turning it over.. then the engine will idle high cause its cold and when its idleing it seems like its missing or somethin the engine will sound like its about to die then kick back to life and then when the idle goes to normal when the engine is warmed up enough my car will die.. thats alil more specific of whats going on so hopefully someone can identify that
 

Joel W.

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I would add "help please" to your title of this post for one...
did you just buy the car? how long has the car been sitting? did it run good before it had starting issues? from your top post it sounds like an electrical issue or even bad gas? or maybe the cold start valve? or even a TPS?
check the basics, spark, air, fuel, compression, its got to be one of them...

anyone else??
 
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peachtits

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i bought the car about 2 months ago and have been trying to work out this starting issue for a while.. when i bought the car it was sittin for awhile but the gas tank was dropped and cleaned out and the fuel filter was replaced... and slowly im trying to work through things to eventually find the problem but that gets expensive so thats why im lookin for some answers
 

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GrimJack said:
...The ISC rarely breaks, but it's often all gummed up inside due to PCV gasses for the last 15 years.
I know what you mean: I cleaned my cold start injector last week--man, was that gummed up.


peachtits said:
yea.. ill have to try to get my car started to read them. Where is the TPS located? Thanks
From Bishop's site: http://www.ma70.com/bishop92t/techtips/index.html
http://www.ma70.com/bishop92t/techtips/7mlayout.jpg

Bishop has a very helpful site for us out there!
 

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Does sound like a bad/off TPS. The 7M TPS is finicky about how it's aligned. After doing the BHG and starter wiring, the TPS on mine turned out to be bad, showing the same symptoms. It ran so rich you could smell the unburned fuel in the exhaust as well.
 

peachtits

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aaronc222 Does sound like a bad/off TPS. The 7M TPS is finicky about how it's aligned. After doing the BHG and starter wiring, the TPS on mine turned out to be bad, showing the same symptoms. It ran so rich you could smell the unburned fuel in the exhaust as well.

when im looking at my tps... how do i know if its bad? and if it is infact bad.. do local autoparts stores have them or do i need to order one from somewhere?

so ill take a look at that and try to check my codes if i can get my car started
 

peachtits

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alright i just checked my codes and it said 32... which says HAC sensor signal... not sure what that is or means so a lil help with that would be great
 

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LOL...

Someone has just run out of patience. Lucky for you, he was kind enough to reply anyhow - unlike me.

I'll tell you straight up - as soon as I saw the code 32, I honestly stopped thinking about helping.

I'll bet most of the guys who know what they are doing didn't even make it that far - most of them didn't even click on the thread because "need some answers" isn't specific enough to let us know if the subject falls under our field of expertise, and we are busy enough that we can't answer all the questions posted anyhow, so silly titles is an easy reason to ignore a thread. By the way, codes are easy to solve, except in very rare circumstances, and are very well documented in many placed online, including here. I don't remember what the code 32 is caused by, but I could find it in seconds, so you should be able to find it in a few minutes.

There is a link in my sig that explains how to get your questions answered - the link is for computer hackers in general and linux gurus specifically, but it applies here equally as well.

I would SERIOUSLY suggest you read it, start to finish.

PS: Usually, I wouldn't even have written this up, but you caught me on a good day... and jetjock made me laugh.
 

peachtits

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well basically im on this forum to learn... i believe asking questions is a way of learning and to let you know somethin i did read through the manual online.. went through all the troubleshooting and it didnt have the problem im expiercing so i thought maybe i should ask a question and learn what somethin is but im sorry if thats not proper enough.. and also jetjock i believe it would of been a hell of alot fucken easier just to answer my god damn question then a fucken page reply bitching how i cant fucken read and im stupid... i know general knowledge about a car and can do basic maintence just i keep having problems and would like to know why and LEARN how to fix them.. you don't help in any way by bitching to me that i need to learn and need to use the internet... when other people were nice enough to answer my question and at least put an effort into helping me... so next time dont waiste your energy typing a page of bullshit so i dont have to waiste my fucken time reading your shit... im just trying to learn my engine more indepth... and theres alot of knowledgeable people in this forum so ya know i thought hell why not ask a question... thats how i was tought way back in kindergarten and its worked for me for 17 years so im gonna stick to it... without reading bullshit from pricks that bitch to much.. dont bother
 

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GrimJack said:
Check the ISC valve, the TPS, and the wiring to both. The ISC rarely breaks, but it's often all gummed up inside due to PCV gasses for the last 15 years.
My ISC went bad this summer and when it did the car would not start, and when it did it would miss half the time, and the other half it would't accelerate worth crap. If I were you I would try this, don't go to advance or pep boys they will ask around 399.99$ for it, I got mine at a junk yard for 5.00$ and works fine and went back to normal, and as grim said they rarely go bad so im not worried about it screwing up again. Just my opinion but if you run out of ideas you might want to try it
 

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peachtits said:
w...jetjock i believe it would of been a hell of alot fucken easier just to answer my god damn question

Absolutely true.

However... and this is important... he obviously thinks you will learn more if you figure this out for yourself. And I concur.

I'm guessing that you haven't read that link in my sig yet...
 

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Huh.

Well son (from your frail ego, language, and inability to write you're obviously a youngster), I thought I did answer your question. You asked about the HAC and I told you even though I shouldn't have. You really didn't expect to get off scott free did you? Am I supposed to give away my hard won expertise, the result of my own efforts, to a lazy chump for free? And by rejecting my other advice you'll lose something far more valuable. Smart move there Ace.

You're right in that the effort was indeed a waste. Not a total loss though, at least I learned something. I'll delete the post and simply let you and those like you flounder on their own. No skin off my ass. I'm not the one with a broken car or a frustration filled future. You have met the enemy and he is you. That's not my fault and never will be.

Grim, caught me on a bad day ;). Sorry for the mess, won't happen again...
 
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heh, damn.

if it's nothing electrical, i'd check your fuel pressure... perhaps you're running out of fuel.

a bad TPS shouldnt prohibit the car from starting. to check if it IS the TPS, however, you could unplug it TEMPORARILY. if the car starts, then that was your problem.

-shaeff