manual & auto ecu swappable?

drdre

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hi, i'm selling my car with a jza70 1jz(m) and the ecu is already chipped and getting another car with the same engine but it's auto in a gx81 body. can i just swap the two ecu without any problems to either car?

any help is most appreciated, thank you
 

Ken

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you cannot use an M/T ecu with an automatic transmission. but you can use an A/T or M/T ecu with a manual transmission.
 

drdre

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Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE said:
nope major problems he is right
however the auto ecu is slightly detuned and you have to jumper switches and merge divided body circuits
so they're interchangeable. please elaborate on the jumper switches and merge divided body circuits (is it the wiring terminal attached to the ecu?). if yes, please help to post some diagrams so that i can refer to when i do the swapping. detuned means it's not as responsive in performance?

will there be an etcs or traction control throttle in the auto? if yes, what will happen to it since the 1jz (m) doesn't have it originally?
 
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JonoTurbo

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I'm running an auto ecu on a manual harness, no modification nessecary at all, not even throwing a check engine light.
 

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yea i dont get the dividers and all that jazz. i have a 1J auto ecu on my 5 speed and it runs perfect. and i dont really think they are "detuned" either. M/T or A/T they had the same power from factory
 

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Yes you have to jumper some switches and merge devided body circuits

1ST
If you have a [1jz engine/manuel] inside of a [auto body] combination
you have to merge the body circuit the efi is devided into two halves the black/white wire needs to be put together with the black/blue wire because the body circuit is normaly devided into two halves with the auto body setup so the car will only start in the park postition position the NSW switch is on the efi side. please refer to the Male B1 connector pins 5 & 10!

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if you use [1jz engine/auto] inside of a [manuel body] with a [1jz ecu/auto]
You have to jumper a clutch nsw switch at the ecu there is not clutch or clutch nsw switch in an autobody.

3rd if you have a [1jz engine/manuel] inside of a [manuel body] with a [1jz ecu/auto] you have to add a wire plugging into the ecu because the efi harness for for a manuel is diffrent then the efi harness for an auto you have to add a wire going into the 1jz ecu at the T connector pin 22 because the manuel 1jz manuel normaly doesntot have a wire going into the T connector at pin 22 and the auto ecu needs a signal called "22 - NSW - Start Control From AM1

here look at the diagram
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Auto ECU's have a diffrent tuning they are slightly detuned to allow the auto shift smoother and to help the auto transmission last longer. They tend to also do soft fuel cuts when sending/recieving solenoid signals to shift.
 
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The Reaper

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interesting and if you dont do this whats the side effects? cause my manual 1JZ with auto ecu came out of a running and driven car from japan so i dont think it matters
 

drdre

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yeah, really interesting. thank you Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE for the detail explanation, i thought i could easily just swap and keep my chipped ecu.
 

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if you have a manual transmission to begin with, you can just swap out ecus and be done with it.


but, if you are converting from auto to manual trans, you would have to bypass the A/T neutral start switch so the engine can start.


the performance difference isn't noticible at all between the two ecus. not saying that it doesn't exist, but you probably won't notice it. I've gone back and tested my A/T ecu on a manual trans car and it drove exactly the way it did as if the proper M/T ecu was plugged in.