yeah, just surf on over to hpf or AEM's website and see what they charge for a standalone(3k??). not to mention what a professonal will charge you to turne it, or the wirering it takes to install it. maft-pro is (i've heard/read) user friendy enough that anyone can turne it. and much, much, much cheaper. we all know that a standalone is better but for my goals and most everyone elses the maft-pro is wonderful.