low oil pressure...

cp91t

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Ok, so i have looked on here for a few days trying to get as much info as i could about oil/oil pressure/stock gauges but decided to do my first post...
I just had a rebuild done on my 91 turbo at 171k after BHG.(resurfaced head, block, new bearings, timing belt,MHG, all seals etc., original pistons, crank, cams, etc.)
The problem is my oil pressure seems to be really low. it has always been like that before the rebuild. Since i bought it four years ago, and a few years previous from what i was told, 15-40 was the oil ran in it. I attributed the lack of pressure to the worn engine but expected it to be resolved once the rebuild was complete. I switched over to eneos 5-40 after the dino-oil drain, thinking runnin 40 should suffice...
When I start the car cold pressure goes to about 30(the first hash is 20? is 30 low for cold start idle?) then when i begin to drive, it goes up to about 40 psi around 2500-3000 rpm, but then as the car warms up it tends to drop a lot. (i mean cruisin on the freeway doing 3000rpm it sits about one third of the way up between the first hash and the 40 mark!) besides this, it NEVER (according to the gauge, of course) gets above 40! I know i need to do a mechanical gauge check to be sure, but it sure feels like it needs more lube.
at all times the pressure seems low to me from what i have read.
Will shimming the pump do the trick? Is it just the old engine?? How much damage am i doing by driving it at these pressures?(i rarely push it beyond 4000-4500 rpm)
 

hvyman

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did you replace the oil pump when you did the engine?

sounds about right maybe just a tad low.
 

rayall01

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Shimming the pump will help, but more likely, the oil squirt-er, and oil cooler springs are the culprits. When they get weak, they will open at lower pressures, and that will lower your overall pressure. definitely get a mechanical gauge though, to be sure.
 

figgie

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One third of the way up??

I see your problem! You need to get a guage to give you, the driver, ACCURATE information! The stock gauge is a bit lacking in that department hence why one of the troubleshooting steps is to attach a mechanical pressure guage to the port to verify proper operation.

In otherwprds, don't guess. Read the TSRM for the supra and verify with what you have.
 

jdub

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You seriously need to take a look at the TSRM...that answers your questions concerning pressure.

Just to get this straight:
- You put the old pump in without checking it's clearances?
- You did not remove the piston squirters and at least clean the bolts?
- You didn't remove the stock filter head and check/clean the cooler relief valve?
- Did you clean the oil channels along the side of the block and in the crank? (what did the old bearings look like)
 

cp91t

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yes, good questions jdub... i definitely need to ask my mechanic those... maybe i didn't research enough prior, believe me i am kicking myself:nono: that the pump and everything was out and available but now all tucked away!
def. gonna get a mech. gauge test and go from there.
i guess it takes quite a bit to pull the pan to get to the pump right? what about the oil cooler? o and am i doing damge assuming those were the actual pressures?