lots of upgrades, now wont start. Help?

aheroicrevolt

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I shot it with a timing light after removing my fan and alternator belt, And #1cylinder isn't firing until about 50* clockwise after the 0* mark. Something is messed up in my timing. I'm going to tear off the covers and retime it tonight. More updates later!

UPDATE:: Retimed CPS and it started
Startup- Lots of bad noises while running
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDsRB9xisKw

STORY::

So i fit a frankenstein turbo on the supra along with a new exhaust manifold and downpipe and wastegate. I dont think my problem is stemming from there.

I also added the Lexus AFM and 550 injectors. I then added a front facing intake manifold with a 90MM throttle body. And piped it all with 3' piping and a huge intercooler. With this I added the APexi SAFC2 to control some fuel flow.
However, i have not upgraded the fuel pump yet.

as the car turns over the Apexi turns off, much like a stero in a car shuts off while the car is turning over. So i dont know if my settings (+5 at 1000rpms) are being used on startup.
Could it be that my 90mm Throttle body along with my 3in piping is letting in so much air that I dont even have enough to fire at idle? I try to turn it over and it just coughs and sputters and hicups. I had it running twice for about 5 seconds, maybe a little less. I achieved that while turning the key on and off very quickly only letting it crank over for a second or so before shutting it back off. I can crank it over and for the first couple seconds it will bubble and hickup but if i continue to hold the key while turning over it stops hiccuping after a few seconds and the starter just turns it over and over and over and over.
The fuel pump only kicks on while trying to start correct? I was thinking maybe on the initial key turn, the pump is pushing some fuel into the cylinder but by the 4th or 5th second of turning over the fuel is burned up? Could i really have that much air going in?

do I need to switch the pump in the tank to a 255 or can I run an external inline pump with a switch? Or would that do me no good since the stock pump is already pulling in everything it can from the tank?
 
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Nick M

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aheroicrevolt;2015949 said:
as the car turns over the Apexi turns off, much like a stero in a car shuts off while the car is turning over.

Is it supposed to do that? The airflow meter is not used to start the engine, the STA signal is. That also retards the ignition for the low cranking rpm.

Could it be that my 90mm Throttle body along with my 3in piping is letting in so much air that I dont even have enough to fire at idle?

No. But you could have a large intake leak you do not know about.

I try to turn it over and it just coughs and sputters and hicups. I had it running twice for about 5 seconds, maybe a little less. I achieved that while turning the key on and off very quickly only letting it crank over for a second or so before shutting it back off.

And that is what an intake leak acts like, as does the engine out of time.

The fuel pump only kicks on while trying to start correct?

After cranking (STA), it runs with the engine speed and position sensor (CPS).
 

aheroicrevolt

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Sep 30, 2012
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I retimed the CPS, but did not adjust to the 10* yet.
The only code that is flashing is 22. Which is a water temp sensor circuit.

After retiming CPS I got it to start and run under its own power, but here is what it sounds like. Sounds like I have dead cylinders. Watch until the end of the video, I give it gas and it doesn't rev AT ALL, just the wideband pegs out at lean. Still No engine CEL's. Maybe I should take the jumper wire out and start it so the computer can give me more codes? Am I safe to advance 10* like I am supposed to?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDsRB9xisKw
 

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The jumper wire needs to be out in order for the trips to kick in and the ecu will start checking things.

Also try unplugging the afc.
 

aheroicrevolt

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update, I shot it with a timing light after removing my fan and alternator belt, And #1cylinder isent firing until about 50* clockwise after the 0* mark. Something is messed up in my timing. Im going to tear off the covers and retime it tonight. More updates later!