If someone breaks into your residence (renting) via a window with a faulty lock, and steals something, is your landlord at all responsible for it?
Legal question.
- Thread starter Doward
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The whole thing is a maybe, too many variables.
Its not automatically the landlord's fault.
-What do you mean by faulty lock? Is it just defective/went bad over time? Was it like this when you moved in? How long has it been "faulty" and how long have you been at the property? Was it listed on your statement of condition when you moved in, if faulty at time of move in?
-Did you notify the landlord the lock was faulty prior to the theft?
Its your responsibility to make sure he knows about the problem, so if he didn't know, you're responsible. If he knew and never did anything about it within a reasonable amount of time, you're back to maybe.
-Do you have renters insurance?
Many landlords require it, if your contract requires it and you don't have it, you're in violation and its your fault for sure. Plus, there is almost always no deductible for theft, so if you have it then just go with that.
Those are some things to think about (parents are property managers/realtors, we're in CA, but the basic idea should be similar)
Its not automatically the landlord's fault.
-What do you mean by faulty lock? Is it just defective/went bad over time? Was it like this when you moved in? How long has it been "faulty" and how long have you been at the property? Was it listed on your statement of condition when you moved in, if faulty at time of move in?
-Did you notify the landlord the lock was faulty prior to the theft?
Its your responsibility to make sure he knows about the problem, so if he didn't know, you're responsible. If he knew and never did anything about it within a reasonable amount of time, you're back to maybe.
-Do you have renters insurance?
Many landlords require it, if your contract requires it and you don't have it, you're in violation and its your fault for sure. Plus, there is almost always no deductible for theft, so if you have it then just go with that.
Those are some things to think about (parents are property managers/realtors, we're in CA, but the basic idea should be similar)
eh, I'm probably screwed.
Story here:
Came home today after work (about 4pm) to find my Xbox360, both wireless controllers, the HD-DVD drive, all games and accessories, disconnected and gone.
Back window was pulled up, and yes, I am POSITIVE the locks were on - turns out that these old locks on the windows, if you jimmy the window, will unlock. I'm pissed about this, as I've got about $1000 worth of stuff gone.
Best part? The bastards took my phone (cheesy i275 with Nextel) and Nextel's saying there was a call @ 2:41pm - when nobody was with the phone - but they don't have the phone number called, and won't have the number until after my statement comes in
Renter's insurance? Never heard of it. I actually DID bring up the locks to Ed Baur Management (my original landlords) over a year ago when we first moved it. When we signed the one year renewal, we (my wife and I) brought it up AGAIN - we weren't comfortable with the locks on the rear door, or the rear window. 2 weeks after renewal, we got a letter stating that Bosshardt Realty had taken over - and I'm still awaiting someone to get back ahold of me
The fuckers that broke in shuffled through my entire house - but only took the xbox360 stuff + my phone. Left the T61, the ct26, Mig Welder, 3 19" LCDs, and 4 computers + my digital camera (where we got a print, as they had moved it). They knew what they wanted to get - so I've got the neighborhood keeping an eye out for a '360 for sale cheap!' deal.
Yeah, I'm pretty pissed. I used some scrap steel to build a bar to keep the rear sliding glass door closed, as the lock doesn't work on it - but they came through the window next to it, instead.
Just trying to get an idea of my options, that's all
Story here:
Came home today after work (about 4pm) to find my Xbox360, both wireless controllers, the HD-DVD drive, all games and accessories, disconnected and gone.
Back window was pulled up, and yes, I am POSITIVE the locks were on - turns out that these old locks on the windows, if you jimmy the window, will unlock. I'm pissed about this, as I've got about $1000 worth of stuff gone.
Best part? The bastards took my phone (cheesy i275 with Nextel) and Nextel's saying there was a call @ 2:41pm - when nobody was with the phone - but they don't have the phone number called, and won't have the number until after my statement comes in
Renter's insurance? Never heard of it. I actually DID bring up the locks to Ed Baur Management (my original landlords) over a year ago when we first moved it. When we signed the one year renewal, we (my wife and I) brought it up AGAIN - we weren't comfortable with the locks on the rear door, or the rear window. 2 weeks after renewal, we got a letter stating that Bosshardt Realty had taken over - and I'm still awaiting someone to get back ahold of me
The fuckers that broke in shuffled through my entire house - but only took the xbox360 stuff + my phone. Left the T61, the ct26, Mig Welder, 3 19" LCDs, and 4 computers + my digital camera (where we got a print, as they had moved it). They knew what they wanted to get - so I've got the neighborhood keeping an eye out for a '360 for sale cheap!' deal.
Yeah, I'm pretty pissed. I used some scrap steel to build a bar to keep the rear sliding glass door closed, as the lock doesn't work on it - but they came through the window next to it, instead.
Just trying to get an idea of my options, that's all
if they just took the game stuff,they were more than likley youts. i would definatley complain to the management about the faulty locks
Well, if you have all the correspondance then you should be ok. I can't believe that you've lived there for more than a year like that. I'll check with parents tomorrow, but I believe on necessary items you have the right to get them fixed on your own and require reimbursement. I'm shocked you hadn't pushed for this much earlier, no company should get to screw you like that.
If you have correspondence with them saying they'll take care of it from years ago, you may be able to go after Ed Baur. Now, if you HAVEN'T contacted Bosshardt, then you can't do anything to them AFAIK.
BUT-when you moved in I would assume you went through with your management company and did a Statement of Condition, where you should have noted anything you found to be a problem. If it was not listed then, they may be able to argue that it was your fault that it was broken and then you would be responsible for repairing it.
Like I said, its a lot of maybe's
If you have correspondence with them saying they'll take care of it from years ago, you may be able to go after Ed Baur. Now, if you HAVEN'T contacted Bosshardt, then you can't do anything to them AFAIK.
BUT-when you moved in I would assume you went through with your management company and did a Statement of Condition, where you should have noted anything you found to be a problem. If it was not listed then, they may be able to argue that it was your fault that it was broken and then you would be responsible for repairing it.
Like I said, its a lot of maybe's
LOL, I'm going to contact Bosshardt about the lock situation when they open this morning, and see about them installing bars on the windows.
This is BS - but I think it will be kind of interesting. I work on practically everybody's car in the neighborhood, so about 75% of the people here know me on sight. I'm going to have everyone keep an eye out for a kid with a new xbox360. In the meantime, I'll probably pick up another from Best Buy with a warranty, and return it if I get my previous one back.
It just pisses me off that someone has the audacity to come into my house like that. It seriously makes me think I should take a gun safety course, and start worrying a little more about home security. :3d_frown:
This is BS - but I think it will be kind of interesting. I work on practically everybody's car in the neighborhood, so about 75% of the people here know me on sight. I'm going to have everyone keep an eye out for a kid with a new xbox360. In the meantime, I'll probably pick up another from Best Buy with a warranty, and return it if I get my previous one back.
It just pisses me off that someone has the audacity to come into my house like that. It seriously makes me think I should take a gun safety course, and start worrying a little more about home security. :3d_frown:
supraman7mgte said:
"two what..?"
"two youts...."
my dad cracks up EVERY SINGLE time he watches that part...:biglaugh:
if you requested the locks to be changed, they should have been changed..
especially if it was someone that knew what you had, seeing as they could have known you had shitty locks..
Doward said:
Im all for guns , but this happened when you were not there. Looks like its time to do your own locks. I know here you can repair broken items and get paid back from the landlord. However you also need to file a report with the police. Not that they will get the items back but there will be a reccord of the break in. You can purchase renters insurrance yourself. You do not have ti get it from the rental company. Its not that bad and would have gotten your stuff paid for. You have to decide based on the cost of insurrance and what may get stolen.
Upgrade the locks , Tell the landlord what happened. They should pay for the repairs and upgrade the locks.
Sorry to hear about it tho..
I hope they reimburse you Doward, but there's not a lock made that can keep someone from coming through a window..................:dunno:
3 19"LCD's and 4 computers? I'm not so sure you haven't been crawling through a few windows...............:biglaugh:
3 19"LCD's and 4 computers? I'm not so sure you haven't been crawling through a few windows...............:biglaugh:
I'm technical manager @ the SFCC PC Shop, so I get good deals on things that come through Also, I'm a bigger computer whiz than I am a gear head. I used to carry a nice little S&W double bladed knife with me wherever I went, but I learned about 3 months ago that it would be considered a dirk, and a deadly weapon here in Florida.
Time for the CC permit for me. Let's see what Bosshardt has to say when I call them here now....
Also, I'm a bigger computer whiz than I am a gear head. I used to carry a nice little S&W double bladed knife with me wherever I went, but I learned about 3 months ago that it would be considered a dirk, and a deadly weapon here in Florida.Time for the CC permit for me. Let's see what Bosshardt has to say when I call them here now....