Kotu's NA-t swap

kotu100

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Hey everyone! well this will be the first time im doing any wrench work on a Supra and looking through these other build-ups/rebuilds it seems i have my work cut out for me. Recently i purchased an 89 NA 5 speed targa shell for $100. It had no motor, transmission, front seats, minor rust in the spare tire well and over the pass side rear fender well, and faded/chipped clear coat. other than that this car is in amazing shape, brand new tires, MINT interior minus a gauge cluster and the rear seat backs, which unfortunately cracked.

Shortly after i found another local supra for $700 in the Wantad. Its an 87 turbo 5 speed targa. he parked it because it couldnt pass emissions. it sat for a while and the interior is absolute CRAP. the previous owner decided to spray adhesive on everything and try to "reupholster" it in purplish suede. so i cant use these seats . however it does have a complete drivetrain which will be pulled out, rebuilt, MHG'd and dropped in the 89.

now ill stop boring you guys with text and we'll move onto the pictures. i took all these today because of lack of memory space on my camera and me not wanting to delete my vacation pics. so anyway this is basically just what i've gotten up to @ this point in time. now remember i only paid $800 total for these 2 cars.


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the 87 in all its glory....
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So far i've taken out the wires, coil packs, and 3000 pipe. dont wanna take the plugs out because there about 1/2" of oil sitting in each one.
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the god awful interior of the 87, if anyone needs anything from this lemme know and ill see if its in decen condition, it IS a targa and thats in good condition.
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ahh the fresh bay of the 89, its gettin a repaint before the engine goes in.
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best shot i could get of the outside shell, all mouldings are in good condition, all lights work, power antenna does not. only 2 dime sized dents in the whole body.
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here i am in mid process of performing LASIK surgery. swapping out the stock lights for some ebay replacements (look much better i just hate the lines on the glass lights....)
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here you can see my new wal-mart steering wheel cover
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replaced stock door speakers with alpine 4" 2 ways
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replaced rear speakers with 5.25" MB Quart "components" look old school but get the job done. these came out of the 87.
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replaced the other rear speaker with the tweeter from the mb quart.
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this is the same condition the rest of the interior is in minus the rear seat backs, driver window switch still has the lil tab thingy :).
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cleaned up the drivers side carpet and what looks to be the stock foormats which are in suprisingly good condition for the year.
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wipers need some rescuing
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30 mins later
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the car came with some aftermarket 16" wheels and BRAND NEW kuhmo tires all around, they need some cleaning up but they clean up nice
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this ECU and a harness for it was in the car when i got it and i looked online to try and match the numbers but couldnt find anything. anyone know if i can use this?
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writing on the other side, looks like its a JDM ecu for a RHD car, can i still use this with the engine from the 87?
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comment, tips, any type of commentary at all is apreciated, im familiar with working on this and as you can see.... VERY different.
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wow good start, and i got to say that brown int is my least favorite...

oh nice looking engine bay the srt-4 has...
 

kotu100

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worked on the engine removal for a bit today, got the exhaust, a/c compressor, and a few other things off till i went to take off the ground near the engine mount and took a nice chunk of skin off my finger... so im done for the day, hopefully on monday i can finish gettin the motor out, and push the car out in the snow.


no comments? advice? tips? comon dont be shy lol
 
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kotu100

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got a new CD player for the car. had this same on in my srt but it was stolen when i was @ school. alpine cda-9815 this is just a pic i found on google.
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kotu100

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aw i wanted those too cuz now i cant find any, wat was the condition of the grey cloths u had in there? wern't they in near mint condition? i was following your build thread and they look pretty nice, if u plan on gettin rid of em any chance you'd part out w/ just the seat cloth and plastic trim pieces?
 

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got the engine out today, and the head off along with basically everything else. tranny is still attached but not bad for 4 hours worth of work.
some pictures for everyone.

you can see the cracks around the wastegate flapper, i counted about 4 of em.
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cams look pretty good from here
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valves are kinda burnt and white w/ some carbon buildup but not too bad
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head gasket looked in pretty good condition, i was VERY suprised.
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pistons from back to front
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can still see the crosshatch :)
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another of the HG off
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kotu100

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have no idea, had what looks like junkyard markings on the timing cover, but the odo on the car said 140k and the previous owner didnt say anything about a rebuild. im just hoping i might be able to get away w/ a MHG without surfacing the block and head.
 

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kotu100 said:
have no idea, had what looks like junkyard markings on the timing cover, but the odo on the car said 140k and the previous owner didnt say anything about a rebuild. im just hoping i might be able to get away w/ a MHG without surfacing the block and head.



The grey cloth seats are as good as sold. Sorry.

DO NOT attempt to put a mhg on without first machining the head and block, especially if you know nothing about this engine. You are asking for heartaches down the road if you don't do that.

OH, take those knock sensors out while the engine is out of the car, otherwise they'll get broken and they are not cheap. :)
 

kotu100

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gtsfirefighter said:
The grey cloth seats are as good as sold. Sorry.

DO NOT attempt to put a mhg on without first machining the head and block, especially if you know nothing about this engine. You are asking for heartaches down the road if you don't do that.

OH, take those knock sensors out while the engine is out of the car, otherwise they'll get broken and they are not cheap. :)
thanks for the advise on the sensors, last night we got it out and i just wanted to get the head off. ill be gone the next few days but ill take care of it when i get back.

i have about 4 years exp. machining so im gonna use a straightedge and a feeler gauge on the head and block, measure it and see if im within the tolerances. if not they get sent out to a shop (havent found one yet.)
 

kotu100

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well got the engine and tranny apart today and got the block on the engine stand. no pics today cuz my compooter is being ghey. Question, what color is the stock clutch? mine is mostly red w/ a couple lil green pieces. Why does my engine have a 6M crank, in a 7M? will this affect durability? (aiming for 400whp TOPS)
 

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The 7ms had 6m cranks in them up until late 89. My 89 7MGTE had a 6m crank in it when we took it apart. I was like WTF? But then found out it was no biggie. Supposedly the 6M revs faster, but the 7M revs smoother. I wouldnt think that 400hp would be a problem on it. Atleast I hope not, cause Im getting close.
 

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i thought the 6m was supposedly stronger?or maybe i got it backwards...how can you tell what crank you have?is the motor torn apart?
 

kotu100

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good to know about the crank, thanks a lot for the info.
anyone have any idea on the clutch? ill try to post pics tomorrow.
 

kotu100

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more pics for ya, got some blue cloth seats in the front off a local, and finally got my new Alpine in, sound quality is 200% better. will update w/ some more pics a lil later, dont feel like goin out to take more pics right this second.
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oh and i've never really seen a the inside of a clutch as the ones on my srt come all together, so hows the clutch look? thinki need to replace it?