I have researched for over an hour now and still havent found the info im looking for, so I apologize in advance, if im starting a new thread when one already exists with this info. Question is, to remove the rear knock sensor is it necessary to remove the starter? I have and 89 turbo with a broken knock sensor and I tried to unplug the sensor on my other 89,to get and idea on the the size socket I need for removal, and couldnt even get the plug off cause of the location ofthe starter. It would come most of the way off but not all the way. Also if anyone knows, what size socket removes these sensors? Im also looking for a couple of spares if anyone has any. Thanks for your help