does the 87 have a stock intercooler and if so can i start the car without it i didnt get it with the cars it was in parts when i got it and i am just wondering
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Yes it has one. No you cant start the car without it.
See diagram on the bottom right:
http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?Section=TC&P=2
See diagram on the bottom right:
http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?Section=TC&P=2
Because engine will sump air from the piping and not from the maf so no metered air to start fuel pump and let TCCS make calculation.
If you want to start just to move the car from the shop, you have to unplug the maf. If you want to move around you need to route the maf to the intake.
If you want to start just to move the car from the shop, you have to unplug the maf. If you want to move around you need to route the maf to the intake.
Get an intercooler? If you try to start the car with no intercooler, the ECU sees no air flow coming into the intake.
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lol im sorry but this is kinda funny. but to be helpful, without the intercooler, the turbo is just pushing air straight out into the atmosphere, then the intake is just sucking in air at atmospheric pressure, so its seeing a crap ton of air coming in before the turbo through the afm, but its not getting that air into the engine, therefore dumping fuel. Even if it would start, which I doubt, you run the risk of hydrolocking your motor. which is no bueno.
why funny and my buddy said we can do something with flex house and re route it like someone said earlier on here but i dont wanna mess it up i am going to some salvage yards this week to look if not i saw some on ebay
Yes you can start it without the intercooler.
You can actually drive the car without it. Your just not going to boost.
Has no one ever driven there car after a hose pops off.
You can actually drive the car without it. Your just not going to boost.
Has no one ever driven there car after a hose pops off.
AbsoluteSpeed;1927540 said:
Yes you can. Just because I have a 1j now doesn't mean I havnt had a 7m before.
When you pop off a pipe you will get loud turbo spool sound, black smoke, and no power when you try to boost on a 7m. Also will get code 34 and the car is perfectly drivable with light throttle.
For all you who dont believe go take off a ic pipe, start your car, and go drive around the block.
And this is the tech section. If you don't know for a fact don't post.
Am I wrong with the fuel pump been started by the maf here?
And all that, with light throttle to avoid turbo over speed.
Please could gurus confirm?
Rollus;1927345 said:
And all that, with light throttle to avoid turbo over speed.
Please could gurus confirm?
hvyman;1927556 said:
Sorry if I struck a nerve somehow. My old car would not start without the 3000 pipe, thus why I posted what I did.
Different experience I suppose.
There's several factors determining whether the engine will start and keep running with no airflow through the AFM. Starting isn't a big deal but whether it keeps running or not mostly depends on if the system is in Fail Safe. I once started and drove my car around town with the AFM and pretty much all the intake plumbing removed. Any GTE that won't do this, especially when warm, has something wrong with it. The GE is a different story, due to the fuel pump being controlled by the AFM.
Yes, this surprised me.
I rolled my car out of the garage to remove my dp and exhaust, as well as the intake pipe, and entire IC system/ piping to sell off.
The I realized that it would be almost impossible for me to push the car back uphill into the garage. So for giggles, I started it, and it ran just fine.
Looked funny, with the turbo hanging off the side, not connected to anything. I have a vid of it somewhere...
ps- afm wasn't even plugged in, because I don't own an afm. I had sold it years ago and gone to a MAFT. But, the MAFT wasn't even installed; I had sold that too.
I rolled my car out of the garage to remove my dp and exhaust, as well as the intake pipe, and entire IC system/ piping to sell off.
The I realized that it would be almost impossible for me to push the car back uphill into the garage. So for giggles, I started it, and it ran just fine.
Looked funny, with the turbo hanging off the side, not connected to anything. I have a vid of it somewhere...
ps- afm wasn't even plugged in, because I don't own an afm. I had sold it years ago and gone to a MAFT. But, the MAFT wasn't even installed; I had sold that too.
Not having an AFM input was a big factor and is what put the system in Fail Safe. As I've said before what good is a system that strands you when a sensor, even one as critical as the load, fails? While such protection is common today Toyota was on top of it a long time ago. Loss of load is crude though....what's left works off the IDL contact and you won't get more than about 3K rpm.
I too had a vid of my little drive that I posted here. Long gone though...
I too had a vid of my little drive that I posted here. Long gone though...