Insurance Co. Rant.

aye mate

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What good are insurance companies? The whole concept of what they do is just a load of crap to me...unless I really missed something. From what I understand you pay the company a certain amount of money a year, an amount that they determine to be fair from statistics based upon your person and persons like you. Then you get in an accident and depending on the type of coverage you have "they pay" for it. But what I don't understand is when you get a speeding ticket they don't pay that - but if you recieve points on your license your rate goes up. And subsequently, everyone else that fits your description. To me having insurance gives people an excuse to drive like idiots. I mean, if someone had to pay outright for any damages they cause to someone else and themselves then I think they would be a little more cautious when driving. They wouldn't just go flying down the road eating their cheeseburger, drinking their starbucks and racking up minutes on the phone while trying to get to work on time, because if anything happens..."Oh, insurance will pay for it." It gives people a false sense of security, because in the end you will pay for having an accident or getting a speeding ticket, either by your insurance rates going up and/or your license being revoked. Stupid.

For those wondering I am 19, my parents pay my insurance so my name is not on the Supra, but I did pay for it and all the modifications. I have had 2 speeding tickets and 2 tickets(went to court ended up with no points) for a modified exhaust (55.00 fine ea. no points). I did hit a deer, but that was in my brothers Grand Prix. My brother has had 1 speeding ticket, and has been T-boned because he ran a redlight. Our insurance company is dropping my entire family: '87 Supra, '94 Grand Prix, '96 F150 and a 2000 Avalon. All cars are under my parents names. With me listed as the primary driver of the Supra, my brother the GP, dad the Ford and moms got the Avalon. I'm guessing we are being dropped because of me and my brother as my parents haven't had a wreck or ticket in over 20 years. This sucks.
 

SupraMario

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go to Farm beuro(sp?) thats what i got, and they are great, they are cheap and when the shit hits the fan, (mom cant drive worth a shit, shes had 5 accedents, 4 other peoples fault, and 1 hers, but they all have been because she doesnt pay attention and doesnt drive in defense, u guys know what im saying, someone coming into your lane you move cause u know damn well they arent going to, so hence avoiding the accedent) ne ways, when the shit hits the fan they have been their, and we have our very own rep. they have never made us listen to 40 defferent people, 1 person we tell them how we feel about the whole deal and they (so far, in 15 years of insurance with them) take care of it to exactly how we would like.
 

aye mate

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I think we actually belong to the farm whatever. cause we live in an agricultral area. I will talk to my dad about that. thanks bud,
 

cwapface

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the point of insurance is not to pay for someone to cover your ass when you get busted breaking the law. that's what a lawyer is for. if you get moving violations, the insurance company knows only that you are not as lawful as another driver who does not have said violations. that's really the biggest thing they can go by when determining how risky you are. blaming insurance for how reckless some people drive isn't really fair, a really rich guy could go weaving in and out of traffic and not care because he can afford to fix whatever he hits. so by that logic, more money = worse driver, which i hope no one is trying to claim as true.

i have had full coverage with geico since i got the car in february, and when i hit a deer this summer they paid out $2400 pronto and my rate didn't go up. insurance is fucking awesome.
 

Idealsupra

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cwapface said:
the point of insurance is not to pay for someone to cover your ass when you get busted breaking the law. that's what a lawyer is for. if you get moving violations, the insurance company knows only that you are not as lawful as another driver who does not have said violations. that's really the biggest thing they can go by when determining how risky you are. blaming insurance for how reckless some people drive isn't really fair, a really rich guy could go weaving in and out of traffic and not care because he can afford to fix whatever he hits. so by that logic, more money = worse driver, which i hope no one is trying to claim as true.

i have had full coverage with geico since i got the car in february, and when i hit a deer this summer they paid out $2400 pronto and my rate didn't go up. insurance is fucking awesome.

i just have to say geico so far kicks ass for me...

i was gettin ass raped for $225 bucks a month for the lowest possible coverage on my supra from progressive...and their customer service SUCKED.

once my policy was up i changed over to geico... i now pay a little over $100 per month for DAMN NEAR FULL COVERAGE.... and their customer service has been great.

and FWIW im 22, ZERO accidents, about 5 speeding tickets none within the past two years, and various non moving violations like broken headlight or illegal exhaust...
 

Mark3Supraholic

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I love Insurance as much as I hate it. I'm not exactly the best driver in the world, so I won't complain too much about my rates. I've had 2 moving violations in the past 5 years of driving. I just got through with one doing 50 in a 35mph zone. Sometimes to me, it seems like they unfairly raise your rates. I guess it depends on the carrier. I use Farmer's. It sucks, but that kinda depends on your agent (if you have one). I'm switching come 2006 (when policy expires) to something else. I still think insurance needs to be changed but I don't know how, so I complain every now and then because I can, although I probably don't have a right to :naughty:.
 

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Hmm... I guess our government run insurance isn't as bad as I've always thought. I pay $75 / month for full coverage, and tickets have no effect on our rates.

Insurance costs here are based on how many accidents you have had - not how many your class has on average, but you in particular - and how much it costs to repair the vehicle you drive.
 

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Idealsupra said:
i was gettin ass raped for $225 bucks a month for the lowest possible coverage on my supra from progressive...and their customer service SUCKED.

holy shit! i have progressive and love it! i'm 21, no accidents, a few speeding tickets, and non moving violations.

i have a '94 toyota pickup and my 86.5 supra. i only pay a combined total of $1600/year for both cars. :) i love it. i've got the 4x4 for winter/muddy driving;)/ towing/ hauling/ daily driving/ etc... and the supra for late sping until the first snowstorm when i stop driving it. :)

-shaeff
 

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shaeff said:
holy shit! i have progressive and love it! i'm 21, no accidents, a few speeding tickets, and non moving violations.

i have a '94 toyota pickup and my 86.5 supra. i only pay a combined total of $1600/year for both cars. :) i love it. i've got the 4x4 for winter/muddy driving;)/ towing/ hauling/ daily driving/ etc... and the supra for late sping until the first snowstorm when i stop driving it. :)

-shaeff

well youre fuckin lucky...OR FL males in my age group suck...im thinking BOTH lol....

either way progressive can lick my nutsack...yeah thats right i said it...lol
 

shaeff

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haha, that really sucks man. i've had no issues with customer service, and it's mad cheap. no complaints here.

FL progressive can lick lick it. upstate NY progressive kicks ass:)

-shaeff
 

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what insurance company do tou suggest for a seventeen year old w/ two speeding tickets and a suspended license? because I used to have state farm, and they kicked me off when they heard about my license getting suspended.
 

SupraMario

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supraman2251 said:
what insurance company do tou suggest for a seventeen year old w/ two speeding tickets and a suspended license? because I used to have state farm, and they kicked me off when they heard about my license getting suspended.

best bet for u is to jump on with your parents.
 

ToyoHabu

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I have had USAA since the beginning; they are without a doubt the best. At one time I've had my Supra, a motorcycle (BMW), and a T100, with full coverage on all for only about $100 a month. Right now its only $40 a month with my Saturn :( , in a few days I will be changing back over to my Supra :icon_bigg Don’t expect rate to change much.

Having any accident or moving violation will cause a big move in premiums; as it should be. If I am a good driver I expect to be rewarded by a good rate. If you think your rate is bad, get some quotes from other company's and take them to your adjustor and negotiate. Even if your contract is not up for renewal, if you tell them you are not happy and that you will take your Bidness elsewhere they will listen because Money talks. This only works if they have been making money on you and not loosing :icon_conf
 

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ToyoHabu said:
Having any accident or moving violation will cause a big move in premiums; as it should be. If I am a good driver I expect to be rewarded by a good rate.

Agreed - however, the premiums should not end up costing you more than they pay out. The basic premise underlying insurance is to pay a smaller amount so that you are covered in case a big bill comes along. I have a problem when a $2000 bill bumps my premiums from $1500/year to $3500 for the next year.
 

kwnate

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supraman2251 said:
what insurance company do tou suggest for a seventeen year old w/ two speeding tickets and a suspended license? because I used to have state farm, and they kicked me off when they heard about my license getting suspended.

Vern Fonk, You've seen the comercials. For Really bad drivers :biglaugh: They'll insure anyone DUI's Suspended, doesnt matter. You'll pay a ton, but at least they'll insure you.
 
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supraman2251 said:
what insurance company do tou suggest for a seventeen year old w/ two speeding tickets and a suspended license? because I used to have state farm, and they kicked me off when they heard about my license getting suspended.


if you're not driving.. don't need insurance... just unregister your car until your suspensin is over.
 

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Essentially the insurance companies are gambling on us drivers. Like any good bookie they are playing the odds. Depending on your policy their liabilities can be massive. The state of Alabama has a 20/40/10. That is a minimum of $20,000 for injury liability for one person in an accident, $40,000 for all injuries in an accident, and $10,000 for property damage in an accident. That’s 50000 minimum per accident. I personally know of on accident recently that involved three people and two cars. The total costs were in excess of $175,000 for all the medical bills and other costs; just one person emergency room bill was $30000. Luckily there was good insurace coverage. This was an accident where a good driver made a small but costly error on the freeway. At $3500 a year it would take over 50 years to pay this amount back. Unfortunately this will never happen.
 

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^^ thats what I did, just I get my license back in november, and i also wanna have my mome test some work I've been doing on it, cant go on my parents, because thats what i had before. and I need the cheapest insurance I can get, just to make the car legal to drive.
 

SupraMario

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supraman2251 said:
I need the cheapest insurance I can get, just to make the car legal to drive.

well, lets see your under 25, and you have a suspended liscence, and you have been dropped from parents insurance.

hmm
ur fucked. srry but its the truth, its going to be really hard for you to find an insurance company that doesnt charge an arm leg and your first born to give you coverage, and not to menchen your driving a sports car. life sucks some times doesnt it.:3d_frown: