hose clamps
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The clamps Toyota used actually squeeze the whole corcumference of the hose evenly whereas the screw-type squeeze tighter where the screw is.
Simply put the Toyo ones are a better design. Just use needlenose pliers to remove/install them and you won't cuss nearly as much.
Simply put the Toyo ones are a better design. Just use needlenose pliers to remove/install them and you won't cuss nearly as much.
Toyota clamps are actually quite nice. The problem is that most of them are older then dirt. New Toyota clamps are in order.
Which clamps are you talking about anyway, intercooler hose clamps?
Which clamps are you talking about anyway, intercooler hose clamps?
No im not talking about the intercooler piping. I have a custom all aluminum piping on my car with t-bolt clamps all around.
The hoses im talking about are like the two 90degree water bypass hose on the head, the oil overflow bypass from head to block,the heater hoses from head to firewall.. etc....
Anyways I will order new ones from toyota today if you guys say they will hold(clamp) strong enough for 600ish or so rwhp applications.
The hoses im talking about are like the two 90degree water bypass hose on the head, the oil overflow bypass from head to block,the heater hoses from head to firewall.. etc....
Anyways I will order new ones from toyota today if you guys say they will hold(clamp) strong enough for 600ish or so rwhp applications.
For the back 90 deg bypass hose use worm clamps. Getting pliers in there
to squeeze the spring clamps is a major PIA.
to squeeze the spring clamps is a major PIA.
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You need about 3-4 inches of plier length past the bend. personally, I could not find anything that was big enough to reach. I also found that a 45 degree bend was better than 90deg because the cam cover interfereres with opening the 90 deg types. Good luck. Post the source if you find some pliers that do the job.
The problem with worm drive hose clamps is that they don't self-adjust as the temperature changes. You want some kind of spring clamp for consistent clamping that doesn't tear up the hose. The worm-drive clamps also have the nasty tendency to crush the hose and tear it up. Toyota had the right idea with their clamps. If you want to go up a step, use the Oetiker clamps, though you'll need a tool to crimp them. My old spring clamps are still working great. Vise grips work great for me.
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SK spring hose clamp tool is THE ONLY WAY to remove Toyota spring clamps. Removing and installing the spring hose clamps even on the 90 degree hose behind the head is a piece of cake with this tool. It's a bit pricey but worth every penny. Super nice because the tool will lock in the open position and allow you to slide the hose clamp on the hose effortlessly. I've replaced ALL the water hoses/clamps on my car with factory Toyota hoses/clamps and this tool is an absolute lifesaver.
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I just use small pair of vice-grips with a "curved nose tips" on the spring hose clamps, and it works well. I even changed the rear 90 degree elbow on the side of the road when it burst on me. (in the dark no less :aigo: ) You can usually first rotate the clamp with a screwdriver to a position so it's easier to get at, and the vice-grips even being quite small, open up a great deal and lock down so you can yank on the hose with two hands.
But yes, just regular worm gear clamps are not very good, as pointed out. You need something that is springy, so it can adjust for variations of temperature and size. There are some worm hose clamps with springs built in, but I've never found them locally, so I just use Toyota ones if the hose isn't too old. With an old-ass hose, a worm clamp works but it does damage the hose further and you have to adjust it once in a while.
But yes, just regular worm gear clamps are not very good, as pointed out. You need something that is springy, so it can adjust for variations of temperature and size. There are some worm hose clamps with springs built in, but I've never found them locally, so I just use Toyota ones if the hose isn't too old. With an old-ass hose, a worm clamp works but it does damage the hose further and you have to adjust it once in a while.