Hey guys, I've posted a thread before in the General section, and it was filled with everyone saying eibachs and tokico's. Is this a good set up for some one that daily drives their car as well as drag races? I don't really car about road racing, just a good setup that will do good for drag/daily. I know that I'm asking a lot here, but just asking. I just got some new wheels for the strip Weld Prostars with 275/50/15 Street radials (drag radials for every other tire company). Any help would be great.
Good suspension for Daily/Drag??
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Slow66;1030561 said:
The reason why I'm posting this is because my shocks are stock shocks and blown, so I want to get some new ones with some new springs. I know that with the car on stock suspension it will be better with weight transfer and let the rear end squat better, but I just want a good suspension that will lower the car a little bit but not too much, so I can get a fatter tire under there.
Well that wasn't specified....Either way, get a stock replacement suspension. Anything that lowers or stiffens too much, will hinder you. If you want max room for fat tires, don't lower it AT ALL.
Cool, Thanks Bryan,
I'm just going to get some Bilstien shocks and that that will give me what I need I believe. I only have 475rwhp and I have a set of 275/50/15 MT street radials on some weld wheels. They are 26" I was thinking about going to a 27" tall tire when these wear out. Or do I even need to? I don't plan on running any more than this.
I'm just going to get some Bilstien shocks and that that will give me what I need I believe. I only have 475rwhp and I have a set of 275/50/15 MT street radials on some weld wheels. They are 26" I was thinking about going to a 27" tall tire when these wear out. Or do I even need to? I don't plan on running any more than this.
If you have the early turbo gearing, I might switch to the 27, but if you have the late turbo gearing, id probably stick with the 26. Best way to find out is to take it to the track and see where it ends up RPM-wise through the traps.
imho, if your not planning on upping the horsepower your only fooling yourself, or atleast for the time being.
But as your running about 475 rwhp using street radials might help your time in the quarter by half a second at best ( if your spinning ) and then makes your drive around town more uncomfortable.
You might want to see if you could make better use out of a wider rear tire than a street radial with some high performance summer tires that also have good wet traction. Problem comes into there on if you have the ability to not drive the car in ice/snow because its a high performance summer tire. I'm looking to do the same thing here after currently running michelin pilot sport a/c and upgrading to alot of different things that i was told to by guys running about my same level of horsepower with mkiv's ( i say that because i dont know if it makes a difference between grip or not between the two )
Kumho Mx
BFGoodrich KDW2
Nitto 555r 2 - road course tire with their 555r drag radial compound.
As far as the suspension goes, forgot that this was originally talking about suspension, past going with a good set of coilovers and making them as tight/loose as you want i have no idea.
But as your running about 475 rwhp using street radials might help your time in the quarter by half a second at best ( if your spinning ) and then makes your drive around town more uncomfortable.
You might want to see if you could make better use out of a wider rear tire than a street radial with some high performance summer tires that also have good wet traction. Problem comes into there on if you have the ability to not drive the car in ice/snow because its a high performance summer tire. I'm looking to do the same thing here after currently running michelin pilot sport a/c and upgrading to alot of different things that i was told to by guys running about my same level of horsepower with mkiv's ( i say that because i dont know if it makes a difference between grip or not between the two )
Kumho Mx
BFGoodrich KDW2
Nitto 555r 2 - road course tire with their 555r drag radial compound.
As far as the suspension goes, forgot that this was originally talking about suspension, past going with a good set of coilovers and making them as tight/loose as you want i have no idea.
blindkiller85;1035693 said:
The ET street radials are actually drag radials like the BFG, and the Nitt 555r but better.
Look at these and these are what I have:
http://mickeythompsontires.com/strip.php?item=ETStreetRadial
I have 275/40/17 BFG Gforce Sports right now on my daily wheels
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71972&highlight=tires
With some more boost I may go up to 500rwhp just so I can say I hit that mark. I am very comfortable with what I have. I just plan to add a ffim and new IC and I should be set. I would like to get a two step though.
Slow66;1035689 said:
I have the 3.73 gears right now and my best time so far is a 12.2 @ 118 in 4th gear with my 5 spd with a 1.82 60'. This was when I had my 60-1CT26 turbo though. I would like to get the 3.91's or the 4.10's, I do drive my car every day for now so I do like my 3.73 gears.
I talked with MT and they told me to get rid of the DR's and get some bias ply tires because I'm 5spd. The reason why I got the dr's was because they came with the wheels I bought and I didn't want to have to run skinny's in the front. What do you think about that? I've just been kinda scared mixing the bias ply with radials.
i am running and have been running eibachs with tokico's on my daily driver/drag supra for several years now. i've always enjoyed the blend of nice touring ride with sport feel i've gotten from them.
as far as the track goes anytime you lower a car you get into negative camber and make it harder to transfer power to the rear wheels so in that respect the setup is not ideal. that being said and sacrifices being made for the sake of an all around car they are working fine for me. last week i ran a 13.0 on my 1j with a 1.9 60 footer and came through the big end at 105 mph. the 60' mark is where you will see losses from your suspension since its the launch that it affects.
also i have street slicks, cant recall what size off hand, mounted on stock mk4 wheels and they fit just fine under my ride.
so my opinion from my experience, its a great setup.
EDIT:
just saw a misleading statement, i've only been drag racing for the end of last season and the beginning of this one. just fyi that i haven't put that suspension under a ton of launches so i dont know about its long term trackability.
as far as the track goes anytime you lower a car you get into negative camber and make it harder to transfer power to the rear wheels so in that respect the setup is not ideal. that being said and sacrifices being made for the sake of an all around car they are working fine for me. last week i ran a 13.0 on my 1j with a 1.9 60 footer and came through the big end at 105 mph. the 60' mark is where you will see losses from your suspension since its the launch that it affects.
also i have street slicks, cant recall what size off hand, mounted on stock mk4 wheels and they fit just fine under my ride.
so my opinion from my experience, its a great setup.
EDIT:
just saw a misleading statement, i've only been drag racing for the end of last season and the beginning of this one. just fyi that i haven't put that suspension under a ton of launches so i dont know about its long term trackability.
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frontierguy25;1035736 said:
IMHO, you have 2 choices.
1- Keep the radials you have on in the front on and get the DRs you want for the rear.
2- Get the ET streets (bias ply) and get skinnys for the front.
My vote for you would be #1. I'm assuming you're not setup with a full-on standalone where you can utilize anti-lag, and launch dumping the clutch with a whole bunch of boost. If that were the case, i would recommend against the dr's. But my guess would be youre still going to have to slip the clutch a bunch to get a decent launch, so dr's will work. You'll just have to experiment a bit with pressures and launch technique to avoid any wheelhop.
Slow66;1036227 said:
These are the drag radials that I have wanted the 275/50/15 on prostars, I just brought up the ET streets because when I called MT to figure out tire pressure they told me not to run the bias ply with radials upfront and since I had a 5spd the bias ply would be better on my rearend. I guess I'll just use these until I wear them out and then get some et streets
I have a lex afm still. I'm looking in to a dis4 or sometype of 2 step or going emanage ultimate that has a antilag feature by Snap here locally.
Thanks for the help guys I do appreciate it. I'm putting in another tranny today and hitting the track tomorrow. Can't wait.
So what youre saying is that you bought the ET Street Radials for now and plan on eventually getting the bias ply ET Streets and a set of skinnies for the future...If so, that sounds like a reasonable plan.
BTW, i have a DIS-4 plus and the two tach adapters that i will be getting rid of at a good price. Pm me if you want it....
I also have new MSD coils that I'll probably get rid of too if interested.
BTW, i have a DIS-4 plus and the two tach adapters that i will be getting rid of at a good price. Pm me if you want it....
I also have new MSD coils that I'll probably get rid of too if interested.
Slow66;1037081 said:
Slow,
That is my plan, just to stick with the radials and then get bias ply. I had some one that wanted to buy the tires, that's why I was thinking about getting the ET streets. I just got some IS300 Coils for my ride. How much do you want for your MSD?