fun times

[black89t]

me roasting the tires on my supra. nothing too special. i just changed the headgasket a week or two ago. i wanted to test it out:biglaugh:. just showing what a stock 7m can do without a intercooler. way too much fun.

http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee190/black89t/?action=view&current=supraburnout.flv

 

[87mgte]

i just changed the headgasket a week or two ago.

Have you gone through the 5+ heat cycles and/or 500 miles (debatable on the mileage), and the retorque? This probably isn't the best idea if you haven't.

 

[Doward]

What do you mean, no intercooler?

 

[DegreE]

Congrats on the successful HG change. What gasket did you use?

 

[DegreE]

What do you mean, no intercooler?

stock?

 

[super.secret.supra.club]

i think he means he has no IC in that vid.

ed.d.

 

[Doward]

That's what I'm trying to figure out here. Stock, the 7MGTE has an intercooler from the factory.

 

[black89t]

i ment my car is practically stock. i have a hks intake and downpipe. i don't post on here to offen mainly SF that is why you guys don't know me and my car. i own a 89 supra turbo that was in mint condition. sadly i crashed it in the middle of january. there was a big thread about it on SF. the reason i don't have an ic is because the two rails up front for the bumper are bent to shit so i can't mount my ic. ic pipes go straight to throttle body to answer the question. it blew the hg on my way home. i change it so i could have some more fun with my car. i'm still not sure if i'm going to do all the body work. here are pics of before and after of my poor car.


before

after i change my old rod knock motor.

after a crash at 80mph in santa rosa and tearing of the fender to drive 210 miles home.

 

[black89t]

i just read over this post again. i didn't notice the question about what hg i used. my bad. i used a fel-pro hg with arp bolts. it came with the hg kit. i think they called it a permatorque or something like that. i could be completly wrong with the name. i was impressed with the quality of the gasket kit.

 

[Shima]

your actually driving without an intercooler? what u done just piped the turbo to the intake. surely thats not good hehe :3d_frown:

but congrats on the hg job. now all u need is an intercooler :biglaugh:

 

[ForcedTorque]

This thread sickens me! Did they teach you the NO IC trick, and driving habits at SF? It looked like fun, and you handling skills looked OK as well. But, please buy something else when you complete the destruction!

Sorry to sound so harsh, but I see your driving, and then look at the before and after, and it just doesn't seem possible.

 

[black89t]

This thread sickens me! Did they teach you the NO IC trick, and driving habits at SF? It looked like fun, and you handling skills looked OK as well. But, please buy something else when you complete the destruction!

Sorry to sound so harsh, but I see your driving, and then look at the before and after, and it just doesn't seem possible.

what do you mean by it doesn't seem possible? my car hydroplaned and washed out from underneath me. it doesn't matter how good of a driver you are in some situations.

do you guys think spining donuts is really going to destroy my car? what damage does running without a ic do?

don't get me wrong i love my supra. i'm just not the kind of person that has a sports car and drives it like i'm 65 years old. i like to have fun with my toys. i have a easy $6500+ including the car and my spend more on body work if the motor holds up.

 

[antman]

Then save your money, because it won't driving like that without an incooler...

 

[Supracentral]

An intercooler is an integral part of the design of this car. Your air intake temps have to be ludicrous, especially beating on your car like that...

I drive my cars hard, all of them. What you are doing is not driving a car hard, that's simple abuse.

When this motor lets go, it will be for two reasons:

#1 - running a turbo car without an intercooler.
#2 - intentional abuse

Please don't be yet another one of these dumbass kids who screeches and whines about how unreliable the car is, when it's not the car that is deficient, but the owner/driver.

When it happens, remember this thread.

I'd suggest you go read up on what an intercooler is, and what it does. You'll then know for yourself why running without it (especially when abusing your car) isn't the brightest of ideas.

 

[ForcedTorque]

what do you mean by it doesn't seem possible? my car hydroplaned and washed out from underneath me. it doesn't matter how good of a driver you are in some situations.

"Doesn't seem possible" was just a tad of sarcasm. What I meant was that after I watched your video, and then read that you were running the car with no intercooler, I was not at all surprised that your car had gone from a nice looking Supra to a beat up, not so good looking car. The sad part of it is that you are probably more mechanically inclined than a lot of guys here. I don't know if I myself could figure out how to run without an intercooler. This might just be because I have never once thought about trying it. I guess I could do it if I tried.

AS for your claim of it not mattering how good of a driver you are in some situations, that's not necessarily true. If you had not put yourself in the position to begin with, that would not have happened to you. You could have realized that you were driving a powerful rear wheel drive car in the rain. You could have used a different vehicle if that was an option. And if not, you could have slowed down to a safer speed. So, yes, you could have possibly avoided that accident. With all of the variables you had at that time, it may have been avoidable by a better driver, and maybe not.

If you plan on continuing to drive your car like your video, PLEASE get it running as it was designed to run first. Then once it is in top notch running condition, keep your maintenance as priority one, and MAYBE you will be fine. I'm not saying that you drive your car like you did in the video all the time, or that you won't ever go fast. These cars can take being driven hard a good bit. But you MUST take care of it! You showed video evidence of you driving wild, and how it had declined in your care. That is what sickened me.

 

[black89t]

i mounted the ic with wire about 2 days after i did that burnout. i didn't think it would work. but i had some spare time to try mounting it. now it barly runs 8psi. still runs strong though.

oh yeah i came across another supra. red, nice leather grey int, 89+, targa, 5spd, the back seat needs to be replaced and the targa is black. clean car all around sraight body. 2500 is very tempting.

 

[Supracentral]

That sounds decent. Back seats are really easy to come by in good condition.

 

[black89t]

it's a turbo by the way too. i wouldn't buy anything but a 89+ turbo. i will post some pics of it later today or tomarrow if i have time. i'm starting to think it would just be easier to buy another supra. i was adding up some of the numbers to fix my car. about 400-500 parts (my dads friend is going to LA so no expensive shipping), 300-500 frame work, an earl schwieb paint job 600, then the fact that there are a lot of lines up front that would take for ever to line up. so thats 1600. a low est.

has anyone ever fixed a car that is as smashed as mine. here is a pic. of the front rails.

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Click thumbnails above for a larger view.

 

[Supracentral]

I have fixed worse, but on cars with considerably higher value.

If the car were something special (otherwise in amazing condition, low mileage, highly customized), I might consider fixing it. In this case it's "just another wrecked MKIII" turbo. I'd strip it, buy another shell and transplant all the good bits.

IMO you're being optimistic about the cost of fixing this. I'd likely call that car totaled.

 

[antman]

Then save your money, because it won't driving like that without an incooler...

What the hell is an incooler? I guess it works... Anyway glad you wised up. I don't know if I would fix it or not. Guess I would have to see the car your thinking of buying first, but I have to say. For the amount of damage you have there 16 wouldn't be bad to me.