Just wondering if any of you here have a 1jz or 2jz intake manifolds on your 7mgte engines if so can you guys post me some pics and can I get some info on the mode please!
FFIM 1jz and 2jz on 7mgte
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Head to your local shop and buy a clue.
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Your thread does not belong in the section for Motor Oil & Lubricants. Your thread does not belong in the section for MKIII TCCS (ECU) & Electrical. Your section does not belong in the section for MKIII Supra Reference/Tech-Tips.
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The reason you are having so much trouble posting is because you refuse to take the 10 minutes it takes to familiarize yourself with the community you want answers from. This is not the ideal way to start your stay here.
noah89t
get naked & boost a supra
noah89t said:
Kinda like owned... but more geeky.. I think it all started with a typo.. (p being so close to o)
You can get adapter plates made up pretty easily to put a 2JZ upper manifold onto the 7M lower runners (1JZ wouldn't be that hard either). I think there was a guy trying to do a group buy on them a few months ago.Suprizm2 said:
I dont believe there was a group buy because there was never a product made, someone had one made but never installed because motor was still otu of vehicle and seems progress has stopped.
Though i am pretty interested in this whole thing, just waiting for someone to do it. i would but i don't have the time or resources at the moment.
Though if progress has been made and im wrong by all means correct me, id love to see the progress.
Though i am pretty interested in this whole thing, just waiting for someone to do it. i would but i don't have the time or resources at the moment.
Though if progress has been made and im wrong by all means correct me, id love to see the progress.
I dunno if Ron is still making them, but you can talk to him about front facing intakes: http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6519
Or you can talk to Power Trip Performance: http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38211
Or you can talk to Power Trip Performance: http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38211
lol....due to the number of complex angles involved, a run of 20 of those adapters would have cost roughly $14,000....I think it would have been difficult to get a GB going for that amount.
starscream5000 said:
I got a quote from 3 different machine shops. You would have a look at the adapter itself and have a knowledge of the cnc process to know why it would cost that much. There are no constant angles on the flange. I still may look into having it cast though, that would be a much simpler alternative.
Let me guess, a thick plated flange with runners sloping into the stock lower runner on the 7M, then into 1 and 2 JZ upper runner??
It would probably be cheaper to just make a completely new lower runner then have it cast out into runs of like 10-20 for group buys...
It would probably be cheaper to just make a completely new lower runner then have it cast out into runs of like 10-20 for group buys...
Still don't see how it would be 14 grand. The angles would be consistent from piece to piece a 7M is a 7m and doesn't need differing amounts of clearances from one to the next unless its owners preference.
Its a thick flange with holes, only angles to figure out is the ports from the 7m lower to jz upper, that wouldn't change from piece to piece, and i cant see bieng hard to draw in a CAD program to program a cnc, and after thats done all thats left to do is put in the material.
Its a pretty simple piece.
maybe more pictures of the one you made to see these "angles" you speak of.....
Its a thick flange with holes, only angles to figure out is the ports from the 7m lower to jz upper, that wouldn't change from piece to piece, and i cant see bieng hard to draw in a CAD program to program a cnc, and after thats done all thats left to do is put in the material.
Its a pretty simple piece.
maybe more pictures of the one you made to see these "angles" you speak of.....
nosechunks said:
it has nothing to do with clearances. Align a 2j upper and a 7m lower manifold and you will see that it is not as simple as you think. The 6 7m ports are all in a straight line, while the middle two 2j ports are lower than the outside ones. As a result, for smooth flow, the holes in the flange require concave and convex surfaces, which are apparently extremely difficult and time consuming for a CNC machine to reproduce. I was also told it would cost approximately 2-3k to translate the prototype flange to a cnc file.
Things seem like they should be cheap and easy to make until you actually do it. The only way to make this viable would be to have it cast, and even then, machine finishing would be required. It is probably easier for me to make them by hand then go through the trouble of getting them produced, but honestly, for the time it takes to make them, it is not worth it for me.
I understand for optimum flow and performance the ports should be smooth and concave as you have said. BUT, this adapter isn't exactly something designed for optimum performance and flow. its sole purpose is to convert to FFIM cost effectively. Im not saying it couldnt be smooth and designed for optimum performance, but in this case, there are other, better options for high performance applications. people looking for buy this aren't looking for big horsepower gains, just to clean up the engine bay and simplify intercooler installation.
If the ports were just angled to make them line up, even if the flange had to be a little thicker to reduce the angle it would just be straight ports drilled at the proper angle to align them and then the bolt holes.
If the ports were just angled to make them line up, even if the flange had to be a little thicker to reduce the angle it would just be straight ports drilled at the proper angle to align them and then the bolt holes.
4 of the 6 2jz ports aren't round, and the ones that are are of larger diameter than the 7m lowers. I understand your point about optimum performance, but half-assing this would result in a considerable loss in performance. I'm not one to do something like that just to make a quick buck.
And for all you other guys wondering: 20 X $700 = $14,000 You figure, the short runner intakes run about $800, its not too bad... However, with Ron's kits, you get the alternator drop down bracket...starscream5000 said: