Engine bay clean up

[kamikazemkiii]

Ive been keeping an eye on the elite engine shot thread and im jelaous over many people haha. I do so much work to my engine and was curious on what to do to make it look better id like to make it look plain and simpe without so much clutter.

any tips appreciated
thanx

 

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

Simple Green MAX black jug the stuff is superior to anything else in the market for cutting greese & being bio safe & friendly.

After using that to get rid of the greese any shine product like they use on tires the foamy spray forgot who all makes them but any of them are pretty good.

 

[Suprasonic19]

I read how to do a wire tuck on a honda motor awhile back and it was really simple. But then I look at my motor(7mgte) and was like no way! I too would like to simplify the looks of the engine bay but I really dont think there is much to do short of relocating everything to inside the front fenders.

 

[madsupra88]

I simply removed everything that dont use/need.

washer fluid reservoir
cruise control
abs
egr

went with ffim

i mean its not the cleanest, and still got some work to do, but would be a good start.

 

[kamikazemkiii]

^^ thats what im talking about its so empty haha i have shit everywere
i have deleted
ac
powersteering
cruise control

am wanting to go FFIM
how difficult is it to remove abs?
and how do u hide the harness?

 

[madsupra88]

Abs is actually really simple. id have to draw u a diagram to show exactly what to do. as for the wiring harness, i extended the injector wires so i can route the harness UNDER the intake (by the starter) that way u cant see it !

Soon enough ill reroute my fuse box and ps reservoir in the fenders, but as of now im diggin it

 

[TooGoode]

Abs is actually really simple. id have to draw u a diagram to show exactly what to do. as for the wiring harness, i extended the injector wires so i can route the harness UNDER the intake (by the starter) that way u cant see it !

Soon enough ill reroute my fuse box and ps reservoir in the fenders, but as of now im diggin it

very interested. please elaborate:naughty:

 

[Pernilongo]

how difficult is it to remove abs?

Just eat junk food for a week or two and you are golden. :biglaugh:

 

[madsupra88]

Just eat junk food for a week or two and you are golden. :biglaugh:

Lol

Ill draw up a diagram for you guys tonight n post it up.

-Saif

 

[jdub]

I simply removed everything that dont use/need.

washer fluid reservoir
cruise control
abs <--- This is a close second
egr <--- This is probably one of the most stupid things there is to remove.

went with ffim

i mean its not the cleanest, and still got some work to do, but would be a good start.

I truely hate this kind of thread. It almost always does not end well. Guys start yanking off all the "unneeded" parts and then the "why is my car running like crap?" threads begin.

To the OP...I highly suggest you be very careful what you take off and how you reroute things. If you don't understand what you are doing, you will screw this EFI system up in a nano second. Much like the guy I quoted above...he screwed up royally and doesn't even know it.

 

[reydio]

^^^hahaha, jdub, you are correct.....

If you want a clean engine bay, buy a honda.....................

 

[madsupra88]

I truely hate this kind of thread. It almost always does not end well. Guys start yanking off all the "unneeded" parts and then the "why is my car running like crap?" threads begin.

To the OP...I highly suggest you be very careful what you take off and how you reroute things. If you don't understand what you are doing, you will screw this EFI system up in a nano second. Much like the guy I quoted above...he screwed up royally and doesn't even know it.

Hmm, i wonder why they sell egr block off plates. I also wonder how the japs delt with it. i also wonder how the car ran perfect with the setup i have makin a 11.4 pass on low boost.

**Ninja edit**

Jdub, I hope you dont take that the wrong way. im just speaking from experience here thats all.

Yea there is really no need to take it off, because itl put more stress on the head (unless you have a good cooling system, which i have) and can also cause more ping under acceleration unless you run higher octane fuel.(which i do)

I am not the first one to eliminate egr system, and im sure u know that also. I also did not tell the OP to take it off, i was asked what i took off and i responded to him.

To the OP.
Do your research before you take your egr of (If u even plan on taking it off that is.)

-saif

 

[montego6500]

i took egr off 6 yrs ago car runs just fine. my frinds car same no egr runs just fine.

 

[jdub]

i took egr off 6 yrs ago car runs just fine. my frinds car same no egr runs just fine.

Good for you...the USDM ECU is tuned (fuel and timing) for the EGR. Removing it causes additional air to be introduced into the cylinders. It risks detonation at part throttle under load...i.e. going up a hill and entering boost in the 3000 RPM range. Removing it is dumb...no matter how you look at it. And, it doesn't matter how good your cooling system is.

Mad - The reason EGR block off plates are sold is to get your $$$. There is absolutely no gain to be had by removing it...the ECU cuts the EGR off above ~4000 RPM. No effect on top HP at all. 93 octane pump gas is not going to help enough to justify removal.

You guys can do what you want, but it was a very bad thing to do on a stock ECU...period. Especially for the purpose of "cleaning up the engine bay".

 

[madsupra88]

Good for you...the USDM ECU is tuned (fuel and timing) for the EGR. Removing it causes additional air to be introduced into the cylinders. It risks detonation at part throttle under load...i.e. going up a hill and entering boost in the 3000 RPM range. Removing it is dumb...no matter how you look at it. And, it doesn't matter how good your cooling system is.

Mad - The reason EGR block off plates are sold is to get your $$$. There is absolutely no gain to be had by removing it...the ECU cuts the EGR off above ~4000 RPM. No effect on top HP at all. 93 octane pump gas is not going to help enough to justify removal.

You guys can do what you want, but it was a very bad thing to do on a stock ECU...period. Especially for the purpose of "cleaning up the engine bay".

Bump the FP up! and go with jdm ecu. (if you dont have standalone already)

 

[jdub]

Bump the FP up! and go with jdm ecu. (if you dont have standalone already)

A JDM ECU or standalone EMS will work. Bumping up FP is only going to cause other issues.

 

[madsupra88]

A JDM ECU or standalone EMS will work. Bumping up FP is only going to cause other issues.

Gotcha.

 

[EOS]

I’m with jdub on the issue of yanking the EGR: Pull it off with a stock ECU and you’re asking for a lean condition at part throttle (obviously a bad thing). When I was trying to track down the problems with the EGR setup on mine, I had Idunnohowmany friends from back in the days when I had my 5.0 Mustang telling me, “Just yank off the EGR. You don’t need it anyway.” I patiently tried to explain to them WHY I didn’t pull the EGR off my car (i.e. for the reasons jdub and others have said), but my explanations basically fell on deaf ears. Why? Because these were people who yanked every single bit of equipment off their cars that they possibility could, including the EGR and other emissions equipment, in an attempt to save weight and make the car faster. (I swear, I knew one guy who pulled the SUNVISORS out of his Mustang to save weight.) Regarding the emissions equipment, they said removing it made their cars faster, no matter how many times I told them that the emissions system shut down at full throttle and therefore wouldn’t make any difference in the car’s performance. Oh well. I’ve discovered that no matter how many times you give someone correct information-information that you can back up with hard data-people like that are ALWYS right, and you're ALWAYS wrong. Why? Because (they think) they know better. For those using EGR block off plates with a USDM ECU, and have had no problems with this setup, more power to you, I suppose, but it’s not something I’d do. I eventually stopped explaining to them my reason for keeping the EGR in technical terms, and simply told them it was because I have Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (which I do), and otherwise the car would be “wrong” because it would be “incomplete”.

The JDM 7MGTEs had EGR block off plates because they had no EGR in the first place. The JDM ECU was tuned specifically to work without EGR. With a standalone EFI setup, you should be able to run without EGR because the standalone EFI setup is geared for performance; it doesn’t give a flying **** what you do as far as emissions is concerned.

Also, it may just be my OCD talking, but I’ve noticed a great number of 7Ms (madsupra’s included) running without the upper timing belt cover. While I know it would be an EXTREMELY remote possibility, but am I the only one paranoid about something-ANYTHING-falling into the timing belt area and causing problems? Not to thread jack or anything…I’m just saying that the possibility has crossed my mind…

Hope this helps…
Joe

 

[KicknAsphlt]

You guys can do what you want, but it was a very bad thing to do on a stock ECU...period. Especially for the purpose of "cleaning up the engine bay".

I just painted mine black....it'll do until I can get my hands on a jdm ecu to run the block-off plates again.

 

[lewis15498]

On top of everything mentioned above, even if you do get an jdm ecu to run no egr, your still sacrificing $$ and fuel economy (more $$), in the name of making your underhood look cleaner? And why you would want to ditch a perfectly good ABS system is beond me.

If theres one thing i have learned with cars, its dont fuck around with anything until you completely understand what it is, what it does, how it does it, and what will happen if it malfunctions or is removed.