Can She handle it?

SupraMario

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Ok my friend is going to take a road trip in like 2 weeks, he wants to learn on a 5 speed, so i told him i would teach him. last night he tried to get the hang of 1st gear, he got better after 2 hours. everyone keeps telling me that teaching someone screws your clutch up bad,
well my car seems to be handling it with the stock clutch from 87.
but should i continue to teach him, if its going to screw my clutch up apparently that bad? hell how bad is he hurting my engine when he kills the damn thing?
 

Squid699

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YES! Having someone who is unskilled in the ways of the clutch will cause excessive wear on your clutch, BUT....no more so than someone who drives a manual poorly or when you speed shift or drive the car roughly. The real key is to not 'ride' the clutch, or keep any sort of pressure on it. This will create 'hot spots' on the disc and cause it not to work properly. You want to be on the clutch as little as possible....

Personally, I think that teaching someone to drive a manual in a Supra is a bad idea. Find a car that has an easy clutch that has a wide clutch point - something less precise than a Supra - and preferably a car that you don't really care about. I would never teach someone to drive a manual in my Supra - my Hyundai Accent is a completely different story.
 

MA70Supra88

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I learned to drive on mine. Probably wasn't the best idea, but there really wasn't much of an alternative. It was either tear up my car or my Dad's brand new Solara.
 

SupraMario

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haha i learned on my dads caviler(sp?) the economy car.
took about an hour and i knew how to drive a standard, i finished learning on my supra.
 

suprafanatic90t

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i have taught many people to drive a in my supra. the n/a. still have the same clutch since i rebuilt the motor. just have to be careful but it does tear it up. i learned how to drive on my dads fullsize 3/4 ton chevy when i was about 8. the supra is so easy to drive compared to a truck.
 

limequat

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Yeah, I kinda agree with Dan. I've never turned anyone down on a lesson. Ya know, to further the cause of the manual trans. I figure the more manual drivers out there, the more used cars I can buy from them :)

Anyway, I've given several lessons to several people on several cars. It's not the wear on the car that bothers you, it's the irratation from the mess ups that wear on YOU!

If you have a beater that you don't care about - great, further the cause. Otherwise, politely decline and save yourself a few ulsers.
 

SupraMario

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well thnx for the advice some one else in their 2005 civic is teaching him 2 so he gets more time with that ne ways.
 

Anomili

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Originally I learned to drive in my dad's supra, before he gave it to me. It was impossible, you couldn't move the car an inch without him telling you about how not to wear the clutch and such. I eventually gave up and learned on a 4 cylinder ford escape, where I got it down in under an hour. After the escape, the supra is like heaven.
 

limequat

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I don't know what you guys are talking about. Between the Supra, my WRX, and my Mazda; the Supra has the best clutch feel of them all.
 

Anomili

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I love the supra's clutch, especially after the escape. I remember damned near flooring it when I got on the highway and my instructor was going "floor it floor it or were not gonna get to 100 (kph) in time to merge!"
 

SupraMario

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lol
my car still has that burst if u floor it even being an NA. i make people respect the MKIII around here.
 

Anomili

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Yeah, if there is one thing I really love about the supra is how it can pretty much pull regardless of what speed/rpm your at. That is something we supra owners take for granted a lot of the time. In some cars you can floor it at just the right gear and you'll still feel as if your moving at a constant speed. It is all about the 3-4 inches you get pushed into the seat when the turbo spools up at WOT at 3000 rpm in 3rd :love:
 

Clinton

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I learned manual on a 1952 Dodge M37, with a small block chevy, and chevy 3-on-the-floor with low range.

the shifter throw between gears was about 18" and the clutch travel to the engagement point was 14-16. The "armstrong" steering on it required both hands, and it had nothing for brakes. You could slam your foot down, and push in all 16" of the brake pedal, pedal on the floor, and not stop, you have to pump them 6 times to be effective at all, then grip the steering wheel and stand on them :p

needless to say, you felt all over the cab when you were driving it, but damn was it fun!

consequently, when I got the supra, I forgot how short the shifter throw would be, and nearly put the shifter through the radio and the clutch through the floorboards numerous times until I got the hang of it :p

I never found the clutch difficult on a supra, the only thing about it that bugs me is the lack of feedback (in the form of vibration through the pedal)

I don't think the supra is overly hard to learn on, but a vehicle with a nice soft cable clutch is a lot better.

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